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RalphVa

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Guess DPF in our pickups will prevent our doing this.

Ralph
 

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That comes out of the category of “can’t fix stupid.”
They think they’re funny but all they really do is create an excuse for more rules and regulations to be passed.
 
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Guess DPF in our pickups will prevent our doing this.

Ralph

yeah,unless you perform a delete, Larger injectors, Then, you can roll coal, blow smoke all you want.
My truck doesn't have DPF, but I still don't do this
 
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I used to do it occasionly with the 240D or 220D if I got a tailgater.

Ralph
 
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My 2 remaining bone stock DPF trucks will occasionally billow smoke. It makes folks behind me agitated, to put it kindly. It is more of a light gray smoke than the obvious black over-fueling smoke
 
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Guess DPF in our pickups will prevent our doing this.

Ralph

Why would I want to convince everyone who sees it what a jerk I am?
 
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Have the DPF removed today on my I30. The content of the filter has been removed. Had the error message P2002 before deleting. Now after the removal, the error code p2002 returns. Not as fast as before but the orange light is flashing again. And again P2002 fault. How can there be a pressure difference when the filter is empty? What could be the error? Is the pressure senor turned off when removing the filter?
 
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Have the DPF removed today on my I30. The content of the filter has been removed. Had the error message P2002 before deleting. Now after the removal, the error code p2002 returns. Not as fast as before but the orange light is flashing again. And again P2002 fault. How can there be a pressure difference when the filter is empty? What could be the error? Is the pressure senor turned off when removing the filter?

Even with a perfectly clean DPF filter, the computer still needs to see a difference between both sensors. The filter material will create a restriction that will give that pressure differential needed.

That's why when deleting a DPF, most of the times is not as simple as just gut the filter. It works on some tractors though.
 
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The EPA requires the system to be smart enough to diagnose itself. That means it has to see a difference in pressure across the DPF. It has to see a temperature increase during a regeneration cycle. It will continue the regeneration until it sees a pressure drop. If pressure does not drop sufficiently in designated time then fault. Plus a limit as to how long a fault will be tolerated before total shutdown.

If you simply remove the DPF without hacking the ECU firmware eventually you will enter a routine scheduled regeneration and never exit until the fault timeout shuts everything down.

Regeneration dumps unburned fuel during the exhaust cycle so as to light the DPF on fire and burn out the accumulated carbon. This is a really bad state to be locked into.
 
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The only time I ever did that was by accident. We lived out in the country and some bicycle group organized a race through our country hills and back roads. They came in ahead and spray painted directional arrows at intersections all over the place. I did not know when the event was but got caught behind a group of them, apparently on race day. I followed this group in my 7.3 F450 (stock) pulling my g/n full of hay, they were riding 3 abreast for a sufficient time/distance in my estimation, (at 20ish mph) right up to the approach to a big, long hill. I dropped a gear (manual transmission) and began to pass them (as they clearly were not going to fall in to single file), it was not pretty, but I thought it was pretty funny. I respected them for at least a mile before they got what was they well deserved.
 
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What they deserved? Sounds like everybody was a jerk.

Bike have just as much right to take up the full lane and drive 15mph just like a tractor or Amish buggy does.
If they (bike, tractor or buggy) CHOSE to move over, as a courtesy, and at THEIR discretion, and let other traffic go by then everybody goes about their day with lower blood pressure.
...but none of these slower vehicles have to.
 
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Not in my world.
Maybe it is where "hide" or "surrender" is now called "shelter in place".:laughing:
 
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If it wee me in the Porsche behind him..He would get a throat punch the next time he stopped.
 
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Your world is also other people’s.
Unfortunately we now live in a world where everybody carries a camera and film every moment.
Contrary to popular belief cars don’t own the road. Bikes have just as much right to them, and like horses and buggies, they were using roads before cars ever came along.
I bike a bit, and always stay to the extreme right, unless there’s a car in the oncoming lane and one approaching from behind at the same time.
I’ll be danged if we are going “3 wide” on a road with minimal shoulders. This is when I claim the lane, as is my right, and force the car behind to slow down then immediately return to the shoulder when they can safely pass me. Funny how enraged drivers will get for that 5 seconds of time you forced them to obey the Law.
 
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Bicycles are for play and recreation. Roads are for work and commerce. Courtesy and respect is for everyone.
 
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What if the car or truck isn’t driving to work?

Yes I agree. A little courtesy, respect , and dropping the sense of entitlement, especially when the law says who is entitled to the traffic lane and who isn’t, can go a long way.
I’ve been bike riding on the side of empty roads and have trucks attempt to roll coal for no reason other than to be jerks. His truck should be easy to find in this small town as he had a big Trump flag flying from the pocket stakes. Makes me less generous to move over and share MY lane next time I see one behind me.

However, it is good to know that 99.9% of people aren’t jerks and get that the world goes better with respect.

Bicyclists hogging the road and not riding single file are jerks. Except the case of an organized bike race is a little different. Think of it like when motorcycle tour groups/rallies block off traffic at intersections so their group can pass through stop signs and traffic lights as one....except the bicycles are riding legally.
 
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It also has to be able to see pressure differential increasing with run time. If the pressure readings with time don稚 follow the algorithm in the software, it knows the filter isn稚 functioning properly, and throws the code and turns on the light.
 
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What they deserved? Sounds like everybody was a jerk.

Bike have just as much right to take up the full lane and drive 15mph just like a tractor or Amish buggy does.
If they (bike, tractor or buggy) CHOSE to move over, as a courtesy, and at THEIR discretion, and let other traffic go by then everybody goes about their day with lower blood pressure.
...but none of these slower vehicles have to.

Absolutely correct!!
 
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Only one problem with your cars don't own the road comment CARS and TRUCKS PAY for the road something NO bike ever has! Your bike has NEVER paid $1400 a year in license fees like my truck does every year for about a thousand miles of use!
 

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