goose neck trailers
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mjw357
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Well, if the load weighs 18,000# and estimate the trailer at 7,000#, that's probably around 5,000#-6,000# pin weight. Way too much for that truck, not safe.
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We haul that kind of weight and more all the time with srw one ton trucks. The rig will handle it, but legal is the issue. The gcvwr for your truck is nowhere near where you are at. That load would gross you over 30k.
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what's the trailer weight so we don't have to guess.. and what are the axle ratings?
what is your truck gcrv?
soundguy
what is your truck gcrv?
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wvpolekat
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Let's be conservative.
Load- 18,000
Trailer- 7,000
Total towed load- 25,000
Weight of truck- 6,500
Combined weight- 31,500
He is over his GCWVR no matter what. By thousands of pounds.
Trailer rating doesn't much matter.
Even if he were able to load the forklift waaaay at the back of the trailer, he will be over on his rear axle as well.
DanD78
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Fork lifts are kind of spooky going up a bever tail. The first time I hauled one I had one of the steer tires fall through a weak floor board. A dual tandem with 10K axles will do the job.
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ace10
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How's that?
If he puts it far enough to the back his back axle will be off the ground.
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I'm not sure about all the rules and regs, but best I can understand the amount of weight needed to be placed on your GN ball to safely tow will throw u over your truck's gvwr (truck weight plus weight on pin), therefore over the legal limit. One of my trailers is a load king GN with 15k axles which I pull with my 3/4 ton truck...looks funny but I dont put much weight on it! good luck.
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I just want to see you load it. No way I am driving a FL up on a Deck Over GN trailer.
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Not likely you can get your pin weight right to keep you legal in terms of axle weights. Guys will do what you're trying to do off the beaten path but you're into CDL territory I believe for legal hauling.
Regardless of how you load it, pin weight, axle ratings, etc your going to be over your vehicles GCWR. Even if you balance it on a heavy enough trailer to meet the axle ratings, the GCWR of the truck will be exceeded. You may be able to pull it but you also have to be able to stop it.
wvpolekat
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Nothing a couple of casters at the back of the trailer won't fix.
Reminds me of folks with popup campers that don't put the rear stabilizers down and hop in the rear bunk. Instant wheelie!
Before I had legs on my trailer, my N could pick the back of the truck up if conditions were right. I HATE loading/unloading that thing.
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First of all, :welcome: to TBN!
As stated before, more information is needed. Is this a one- time haul.....or weekly.....how far....what kind of f350......etc.
I "know a guy" that hauled an 18K+ dozer on a 30' LoadMax gooseneck with 12K axles behind a F350 dually diesel for 400+ miles. Truck and trailer handled it fine. The brakes on the LoadMax are awesome; would stop that load quicker than you'd think. While it's a testament to what the equipment is capable of, would he do it again? In today's climate? Overloaded....illegal.....no CDL....?? Probably Not.....
Thanks for the replies, I don't think loading is an issue because the trailer I'm looking at is a 20k dovetail with ramps. However the F350 won't do. I'm looking at an F550 mini roll off container truck that I would like to mount a goose neck hitch to . Will that work.? I'm in CT and will get inspected.
tlbuser
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Doubtful. Trailer rating - weight of trailer = load. So, 20k - 7k(maybe) =13K putting it 5K overload. You'd need something in the 26K + for that forklift. Is the lift an all terrain shooting boom or straight mast? Load height gets to be an issue pretty quick too. You'd probably have a real hard time convincing anybody that it's a non-cdl load.
Why not? Chicken? :laughing:
That what trailer brakes are for.
Could he move it? Sure - but his original post was could he do it legally and was an F350 built for this task. The answer to both is no.
His GCWR is going to be close to 32,000 lbs or slightly more. Even a new 2011 F350 DRW with 5th wheel comes in at about 29,000 GCWR with a max trailer weight of 21,000 depending on configurations.
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