Global Warming?

[CowboyRon]

Sorry, not you Newberry, I copied the wrong one.

 

[newbury]

Sorry, not you Newberry, I copied the wrong one.

Yeah, I don't like clicking on links and then have my machine go to some website that gets me recorded in the FBI database.

I was a sysadmin on Unix systems. There was a site "freshmeat.net" I went to it frequently and downloaded software, this was about 2000. I got severely reprimanded. Until I showed them that it was the largest site for FREE unix software on the net. Freshmeat.net later became freshmeat.net ][ and is now Freecode.com.

I also got in trouble for transferring massive pictures at night during I think the Bosnia war. They (the Pentagon) throttled our 100Mb connection back to 1 Mb because we were obviously transferring dirty pictures. We were scanning in hardcopy maps and hardcopy aerial imagery and transferring them amongst labs for analysis. It took a week to get it reinstated and set us back probably 3 weeks.

THEY ARE READING AND WATCHING, and often cannot understand what they are seeing and WILL ASSume the worst.

S'cuze me, there are a bunch of men in trenchcoats carrying shortbarrel guns at the door. I thought hunting season was over.

 

[EE_Bota]

Yeah, I don't like clicking on links and then have my machine go to some website that gets me recorded in the FBI database.

I was a sysadmin on Unix systems. There was a site "freshmeat.net" I went to it frequently and downloaded software, this was about 2000. I got severely reprimanded. Until I showed them that it was the largest site for FREE unix software on the net. Freshmeat.net later became freshmeat.net ][ and is now Freecode.com.

I also got in trouble for transferring massive pictures at night during I think the Bosnia war. They (the Pentagon) throttled our 100Mb connection back to 1 Mb because we were obviously transferring dirty pictures. We were scanning in hardcopy maps and hardcopy aerial imagery and transferring them amongst labs for analysis. It took a week to get it reinstated and set us back probably 3 weeks.

THEY ARE READING AND WATCHING, and often cannot understand what they are seeing and WILL ASSume the worst.

S'cuze me, there are a bunch of men in trenchcoats carrying shortbarrel guns at the door. I thought hunting season was over.

Jeeze...brings back bad memories...one volume of "the Linux Journal" came in to work, and they have a special mini mag about Python, and one of the creators was on the cover sitting at a piano stool next to a piano, in a field full of flowers...naked.
Good gravy, you'd think the company was buying me Penthouse...it said PYTHON in big enough letters, but no one put 2 and 2 together to understand that some of the programmers have peculiar senses of humor, and that Python is a language, and named after a troop of comedians. Any fun that cover could have been, it was completely eradicated in my scenario.

"What if the women see it?"
"I hope they like it better than I do, what do you WANT from me, boss?"
I want you to cancel "The Linux Journal."

 

[newbury]

Yea, off-topic but -
Several of us guys were crowded around a monitor viewing some dual processor motherboards with BIG fans at work. One of the guys made a comment something like "Will you look at the size of that pair" just as a female supervisor passed by (she was flat). She got STEAMED and tried to get us in trouble.

 

[Cat_Driver]

Globally last year was the 15th warmest on record.

How Gullible are you people? SERIOUSLY. Please use your valuable time and do your own research and stop listening to Al Gore and the U.N. who started this "current" gullible warming debacle.

Here let me put this in terms you can understand.......

Take 6 football fields and lay them end to end. That's 1,800 feet long. Now take a human hair and lay it at one end. The 6 football fields represent the history of the earth and the human hair represents the recorded history of our weather.

Now for you to make an absurd comment backed up by no possible data going back billions of years is ludicrous at best. So as long as you quote "recorded" data then as koolaid drinkers we are supposed to just pretend the prior 4.6 BILLION with a B years just didn't exist.

Those "recorder" temperatures explain everything HUH.

When you actual research you will find out that the North pole was one a tropical island, I'll actually help you out on this one.

Study: North Pole Once Was Tropical - CBS News

The same article states:

The Earth went through an extended period of natural global warming, capped off by a supercharged spike of carbon dioxide that accelerated the greenhouse effect even more about 55 million years ago. Scientists already knew this "thermal event" happened, but figured that while the rest of the world got really hot, the polar regions were still comfortably cooler, maybe about 52 degrees on average.


So what SCIENTISTS are saying is Global WARMING and GLOBAL COOLING is absolutely N-O-R-M-A-L.

And Lookie here.......I found a solution for your Global Warming:
Scientists believe a simple fern may have been responsible for cooling things back down by sucking up massive amounts of the carbon dioxide responsible for the warming. But this natural solution to global warming wasn't exactly quick: It took about a million years.

So no need to charge me for Carbon credits JUST PLANT FERNS - Problem solved.

 

[GILLYS CHILLI FARM AUSTRA]

Cat_Driver. VERY WELL PUT. I been using your argument ever since this silly BS started in Australia and I'd like to re-publish your explanation with your permission to on-send to every politician in Australia.

 

[Johnp33]

I enjoy reading the posts on this site, it does show that ignorance is bliss.
A few billionaires would have to change a few things to make other peoples lives better, but they have figured it out that they can buy the change of opinion cheaper and we get the trolls on these sites pedaling their BS.

 

[Johnp33]

I enjoy reading the posts on this site, it does show that ignorance is bliss.
A few billionaires would have to change a few things to make other peoples lives better, but they have figured it out that they can buy the change of opinion cheaper and we get the trolls on these sites pedaling their BS.

 

[GILLYS CHILLI FARM AUSTRA]

tractor storage

jayhawkhuster said this in another post "Just bought a new JD 5075M with cab/FEL. Am planning on putting up morton building to keep it in along with other purposes. However, am running into some zoning issues and it may take a while to get straightened out. Anybody with idea for cover/storgage ideas for that big of a tractor short of renting storage. It might run into next year before we get the building up and would like to keep the new purchase as protected as possible. Any thoughts? "

MY RESPONSE WAS....

Jayhawkhusker, i just sent an email to complaining to every member of parliament in Australia for the same very issue of how difficult it is to spend money in a recession, when we need planning permission to build a barn to house a proposed purchase of a tractor. So Im surprised your having same problems in your country...lol The Greenies have taken over our economy so we cant generate deisel polution, but then we cant produce food either... the world has gone mad IMO.

 

[Dustier]

Cat_Driver - How Gullible are you people? SERIOUSLY.

Yeah, scientists lie. They just lie all the time. You just can't trust the bass_turds. They tell ya it's going to rain and you get dry. They tell ya it's going to be sunny and it rains. Just can't trust them. Oh, wait a minute - that's all about weather and teevee weather critters are chosen for their cleavage. No science there.

Weather is not about climate change or global warming, but when weather becomes a-b-n-o-r-m-a-l it could be a sign of change. Long term change means your crops might not make it, anymore. Farmers know better than others the consequences of unwanted rain and if rain becomes unpredictable in his corner of the world it's a problem. If the entire US mid-west farm zone becomes a heat sink without rain...well, a lot of people will have problems. Reading up on Africa, its expanding deserts and agricultural destruction might help in understanding the human cost. I assume we are concerned with our future.

What scientists do is explore and investigate in search of facts. They do so in rock formations, ocean sediment, tree rings and ice layers that go back thousands of years or more. Scientific analysis of what is found helps measure air quality, temperature, geographic shifts and climate change, for instance. Comparing the results of these scientific investigations gives them a record of - in the case of climate change - how the Earth has transformed over millennium. In the days of dinosaurs they found global warming was the result of a comet or asteroid collision with Earth. So much dust and what-have-you was blasted into the atmosphere that it turned day into night and hence no more dinosaurs.

Some animals survived that cataclysm, but not the dinosaurs. You could say, the animals that die first, from global weather changes are the coal miner's canaries in the coal mine. The miners did not sit about bitching about the dead bird, by the way.

Anyway, science is not about proving what one believes to be true. Science is about truth.

So, 2 questions: Using your football field analogy - Why can you be so sanguine about Earth's destruction in the blink of an eye? Understanding the mechanisms that are creating our looming, environmental catastrophe and possible extinction, why are you so forgiving of the minuscule cabal that is so recklessly destroying our lives?

BTW, who was the CBS scientist that wrote that puff piece?

 

[Mace Canute]

Cat_Driver - How Gullible are you people? SERIOUSLY.

Yeah, scientists lie. They just lie all the time. You just can't trust the bass_turds. They tell ya it's going to rain and you get dry. They tell ya it's going to be sunny and it rains. Just can't trust them. Oh, wait a minute - that's all about weather and teevee weather critters are chosen for their cleavage. No science there.

Weather is not about climate change or global warming, but when weather becomes a-b-n-o-r-m-a-l it could be a sign of change. Long term change means your crops might not make it, anymore. Farmers know better than others the consequences of unwanted rain and if rain becomes unpredictable in his corner of the world it's a problem. If the entire US mid-west farm zone becomes a heat sink without rain...well, a lot of people will have problems. Reading up on Africa, its expanding deserts and agricultural destruction might help in understanding the human cost. I assume we are concerned with our future.

What scientists do is explore and investigate in search of facts. They do so in rock formations, ocean sediment, tree rings and ice layers that go back thousands of years or more. Scientific analysis of what is found helps measure air quality, temperature, geographic shifts and climate change, for instance. Comparing the results of these scientific investigations gives them a record of - in the case of climate change - how the Earth has transformed over millennium. In the days of dinosaurs they found global warming was the result of a comet or asteroid collision with Earth. So much dust and what-have-you was blasted into the atmosphere that it turned day into night and hence no more dinosaurs.

Some animals survived that cataclysm, but not the dinosaurs. You could say, the animals that die first, from global weather changes are the coal miner's canaries in the coal mine. The miners did not sit about bitching about the dead bird, by the way.

Anyway, science is not about proving what one believes to be true. Science is about truth.

So, 2 questions: Using your football field analogy - Why can you be so sanguine about Earth's destruction in the blink of an eye? Understanding the mechanisms that are creating our looming, environmental catastrophe and possible extinction, why are you so forgiving of the minuscule cabal that is so recklessly destroying our lives?

BTW, who was the CBS scientist that wrote that puff piece?

It's been awhile since I read a post with so much erroneous information and conclusions in it.

 

[Lady Tonka]

Anyway, science is not about proving what one believes to be true. Science is about truth.

I have a Doomer friend who sends me horribly depressing links to predictions about the effects of climate change and I'm an idiot for not being able to resist reading them.

So, I haven't read the nearly 150 pages of this thread and wonder if this essay about methane releases in the Arctic has been posted. The title alone should provide great fodder for discussion:

Global Extinction within one Human Lifetime as a Result of a Spreading Atmospheric Arctic Methane Heat wave and Surface Firestorm

:shocked: :confused2:

The article abstract: Although the sudden high rate Arctic methane increase at Svalbard in late 2010 data set applies to only a short time interval, similar sudden methane concentration peaks also occur at Barrow point and the effects of a major methane build-up has been observed using all the major scientific observation systems. Giant fountains/torches/plumes of methane entering the atmosphere up to 1 km across have been seen on the East Siberian Shelf. This methane eruption data is so consistent and aerially extensive that when combined with methane gas warming potentials, Permian extinction event temperatures and methane lifetime data it paints a frightening picture of the beginning of the now uncontrollable global warming induced destabilization of the subsea Arctic methane hydrates on the shelf and slope which started in late 2010. This process of methane release will accelerate exponentially, release huge quantities of methane into the atmosphere and lead to the demise of all life on earth before the middle of this century.

Arctic News: Global Extinction within one Human Lifetime as a Result of a Spreading Atmospheric Arctic Methane Heat wave and Surface Firestorm

Help! Somebody refute this with some opposing SCIENTIFIC truth so I can get to sleep tonight, please!

 

[GILLYS CHILLI FARM AUSTRA]

Are they blaming the Russians for having too many flatulating red cows in the eastern Siberian region creating and releasing all this methane into the atmoshere or could it be all those political prisoners on all those Siberian prison farms are using all those red cows trying to increase their living standards by manipulating the world temperature so they can enjoy warmer winters? I wonder ?

 

[newbury]

I have a Doomer friend who sends me horribly depressing links to predictions about the effects of climate change and I'm an idiot for not being able to resist reading them.

So, I haven't read the nearly 150 pages of this thread and wonder if this essay about methane releases in the Arctic has been posted. The title alone should provide great fodder for discussion:

Global Extinction within one Human Lifetime as a Result of a Spreading Atmospheric Arctic Methane Heat wave and Surface Firestorm

:shocked: :confused2:

The article abstract: Although the sudden high rate Arctic methane increase at Svalbard in late 2010 data set applies to only a short time interval, similar sudden methane concentration peaks also occur at Barrow point and the effects of a major methane build-up has been observed using all the major scientific observation systems. Giant fountains/torches/plumes of methane entering the atmosphere up to 1 km across have been seen on the East Siberian Shelf. This methane eruption data is so consistent and aerially extensive that when combined with methane gas warming potentials, Permian extinction event temperatures and methane lifetime data it paints a frightening picture of the beginning of the now uncontrollable global warming induced destabilization of the subsea Arctic methane hydrates on the shelf and slope which started in late 2010. This process of methane release will accelerate exponentially, release huge quantities of methane into the atmosphere and lead to the demise of all life on earth before the middle of this century.

Arctic News: Global Extinction within one Human Lifetime as a Result of a Spreading Atmospheric Arctic Methane Heat wave and Surface Firestorm

Help! Somebody refute this with some opposing SCIENTIFIC truth so I can get to sleep tonight, please!

Well take time to read the thread

Yes it's been discussed but not with the sense of "wipeout in 2051" that this blog brings up.
A scientific truth is that we will all be about 39 years older in 2051.
Much of the blame for the Permian extinction is placed on the Siberian Traps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_traps,so without an event like that we probably have at least a few more thousand years to worry about it, thus we will be a few thousand plus 39 years older.

But it is a good read, like Mother Earth has walking flatulence.

 

[joshuabardwell]

Government Funding = Money from Taxpayers.
The government does not make money it takes it from you and me.

Interstate highway = That was more than paid for with fuel tax. Where did the left over go??? On & On you name it, space, canal, or what ever.

Again the Government does not have money other than what it takes from the people and spreads around.

No one makes money. We all just take it (from customers or our boss) and spread it around.

 

[crash325]

No one makes money. We all just take it (from customers or our boss) and spread it around.

Let me be clear for those that want to nit pick.

The Gov does not Earn Money, it takes it from those who do.

The Gov does make money, in the sense that they print it or stamp out coins.

People and company's that create things add to the wealth or the country and add to the economy.
Farmers, minors, oil co.'s Manufacturers and so on add to the wealth.

What the Gov takes usually detracts from the economy. The more they take the less the citizens or earners have.

When someone or some thing TAKES your $, That pretty much means you got nothing in return.
The Coke machine took my money, but didn't give me the "Coke".
If I grow a pumpkin and you pay me a dollar for it, did I take your money or did I earn your $????
If I help a company build widgets, do I earn my money or did I take it.

For the Flat Lander's that say wealth cannot be created and there is only so much wealth to be spread around. Were that the case, we would still be using sea shells & wampum for money. The world money supply grows all the time.

Enough for now.

 

[Dustier]

Cognitive dissonance aside, if you understand the cause of why the dinosaurs went the way of...the dinosaur, you understand global warming. That is, unless you suffer cognitive dissonance. So, how 'bout that everyday blow that went through the heartland, eh?

 

[Tollster]

Hope the nay sayers are having a real nice HOT summer, enjoy it boys!

 

[GILLYS CHILLI FARM AUSTRA]

Hope the nay sayers are having a real nice HOT summer, enjoy it boys!

In Melbourne Australia it is rather cold and wet and in my area - 5 degree Centergrade sometimes, but we very rarely get snow except in the high country. Its colder this year than a couple years ago, but we have these cycles every few years. Our Reservoirs were nearly empty at 40% about 3 years ago but now they nearly 80% full. What might happen though is that the tropics might become the new antartica and Antartica might go back to being in the Tropics...and the people will gradually move around with the weather. The Phillipines& Indonesians people will just get onto boats without visa's and might end up swarming into Alaska and Canada but not sure where Australians, Canadians and Americans are going to be able to go without our proper passports when no-one wants us except our lands.

 

[GILLYS CHILLI FARM AUSTRA]

Hope the nay sayers are having a real nice HOT summer, enjoy it boys!

In Melbourne Australia it is rather cold and wet and in my area - 5 degree Centergrade sometimes, but we very rarely get snow except in the high country. Its colder this year than a couple years ago, but we have these cycles every few years. Our Reservoirs were nearly empty at 40% about 3 years ago but now they nearly 80% full. What might happen though is that the tropics might become the new antartica and Antartica might go back to being in the Tropics...and the people will gradually move around with the weather. The Phillipines& Indonesians people will just get onto boats without visa's and might end up swarming into Alaska and Canada but not sure where Australians, Canadians and Americans are going to be able to go without our proper passports when no-one wants us except our lands.