Sigarms
Super Member
SEER2 ratings with mini splits at the end of the day are the least of your concearns for 2 primary reasons.I didnt read every response, but if you buy the highest seer rated mini split you can find
1 - AHRI ratings are very misleading because generally with ductless system, just as the name implies, there is no ductwork. You can take a "high end" 30 plus SEER2 system from any ductless manufacturer, take the same manufacturer and make it a dedicated horizontal ducted unit or a 4 way multi position ducted unit (like most all major HVAC brands make in the US) and you'll be at around 18 SEER2 because it's ducted.
2 - The meathod in which AHRI actually rates inverter compressors can be very misleading because they only use two stages and the actual capacity that the system can provide is actually more misleading because AHRI rated condition for heating is at 47F OAT, which is complete BS because no one does a load calculation at that outdoor design temp.
Most important factor is understanding the engineering data provided by the manufacturer and knowing the the actual heating AND cooling capacities that system can provide for the area to have the air conditioned at what outdoor factor.
Most model numbers given by ductless manufacturers is the capacity that system can cool at 95F OAT maintaining a certain indoor temp given either in dry or wet bulb. So a system with a "24" in it (I'm only pretty familiar with Fujitsu, Mitsubishi and Daikin and this is the case) will give you 24,000 BTU/h of cooling at 95F outside and a certain indoor temp, either 80F or 70F with the bulb given as well). The issue is exactly how much heating and at what outdoor temp will the system give you?
In the very southern states, heating of course is not important. However, even in NC, the general indoor design temp is for 20F-23F outside air temp. That said, when it comes to ductless mini splits, even in my area of NC, I prefer to go with 100% heating down to 5F OAT if there is no supplemental heat (suplemental heat is a huge factor). M
When it's 95 outside you expect the system to keep you cool inside, but by the same token, if it's 20F outside, you expect the system to keep you warm.
Looking at 10 different models from 6 different manufacturers, a 24K cooling system will give you anywhere between 8,178 BTU/h of heating @ 17F outside air temp, up to 29,300 BTU/h heating @ 23F OAT or 27,000 BTU/h heating at 17F OAT. But, guess what? They all provide 22/24K of cooling @ 95F OAT.
The same for multi zone systems.
If KennyG's church is maintaining 72F inside air temp at 0F outside air temp without any supplemental heating, those systems most likely cost more than a cheaper line because it's actually providing "good" heat (even though they are rooftop units, most likley the standard outdoor unit as putting the outdoor unit on a roof is more common for commercial applicaitons vs on the ground for residential applications).
10 years ago there were about 90 different ductless mini split manufacturers being sold in the US. Now, I'm certain there are more "brands", but most are from a handful of manufacturers (perhaps 10 or so max) that are relabled.
Now, where it gets tricky is commercial applications where cooling is nessesary for lower outdoor temps because even if a 24K system will give you 24k of cooling at 95F, that is not always the case when it's 20F to 0F outside (kitchens, server rooms, hospitals, commercial areas witha lot of glass).
This is why you go off the engineering data guide and not the submittal sheets LOL