Generator Operation Question

/ Generator Operation Question #23  
3RRL, you are overcomplicating it.

Yes, in your supply line, after the pump, before the appliance, cut out a section and put in a T, the straight leg is in the line, and the "base" of the T is too the tank. (really does not matter) No regulator, valve etc. etc. needed

It is just holding a "cushion" of water to work against.

Exactly what I did.
 
/ Generator Operation Question #24  
Interesting about having more than one bladder pressure tank.
I'd like to do that for the same reason of having longer pump runs and longer pressure available between pump runs.
When you say "T" it into the supply line, could show a simple drawing showing the supply line, the two tanks and pressurized exit line to the house or wherever? What about the on/off pressure regulator valve(s) that tells the pump to come on and shut off? Is there just one now or does each tank have its own?
Rob how is this?

BLADDERTANK1.jpg


tom
 
/ Generator Operation Question #26  
Rob,you could just 'Tee' in at the house and stick an extra bladder tank in that killer crawl space. It will do the same thing but it will be out of the sun. could even help if a heavy draw(several things using water at the same time)caused low pressure in the house. I added a huge one next to the tiny one that was there, I tee'ed in before the water softener so I can run untreated outside for watering.
 
/ Generator Operation Question #27  
Thanks Tom, that's a good idea.
Since all my pressurized lines all run off the main coming from the first bladder tank, even if I put that one in the crawl space it would still add pressure on the main line just like if it was next to the first one, right. In the Summer, some of my sprinklers around the house run off that main too, so the additional tank would help with pressure closer to the house, I would imagine?
 
/ Generator Operation Question #28  
It would help even out the pressure,once the pressure drops overall it won't help untill the pump catches up. It would be like adding one next to the present one but would make up for an under sized water main,looked like you had plenty of pipe size though. If you had low water pressure in the house while running the sprinklers you could stick a check valve before the new T. Water will fill the house tank and keep it at pressure but it wouldn't back feed to the yard.If the house calls for water both tanks will fill but if the house tank is at pressure and you are only using the outside water the pump would only be filling the outside one. With that well you would need a pile of sprinklers running to lose pressure .
 
/ Generator Operation Question #30  
Can the tank be too big?
Bob

Nope
It does have to set to the correct presure though to work correctly

tom

The installer of the pressure tank should adjust the pressure in the tank, for their particular installation. The pressure tank should be set to approximately 2 psi less than the application's lowest pressure switch setting. For example, adjust pressure tank air pressure to 28 psi if using a 30/50 pressure switch or 38 psi if using a 40/60 pressure switch.
 
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/ Generator Operation Question #31  
Adding a 2nd tank will also reduce your power bill.

Motors consume a LOT of power when starting, a LOT more than running. If you put in a larger tank it starts less, and runs longer.

Easier on pump motor, controls, and electric bill.
 
/ Generator Operation Question #32  
Adding a 2nd tank will also reduce your power bill.

Motors consume a LOT of power when starting, a LOT more than running. If you put in a larger tank it starts less, and runs longer.

Easier on pump motor, controls, and electric bill.


Can a homeowner do this himself or should I get a plumber help$$$$$$$$
Bob
 
/ Generator Operation Question #33  
It is pretty straight forward really.

Have you done any piping at all?

It will take 3 times longer then you think though and 6 trips to the store :D

But yes, you can do it yourself if you are relatively handy around the house.

Depending on the pipe, and fittings available it will either go easy or can be more difficult.

Do you know what type of feed / supply line you have where you want to put the tank?
 
/ Generator Operation Question #34  
Can a homeowner do this himself or should I get a plumber help$$$$$$$$
Bob

how are you going to plumb it? screw pipe or copper or pex?

Screw pipe is the most difficult if you dont have a pipe vise and thread cutter. (my HF pipe threader works great).

copper is easy to work with and pex is the easyest.

I would tackle it as a DIY install, but i have some plumbing experience under my belt. A friend/neighbor/brother etc that has done some plumbing before can be a big help.
 
/ Generator Operation Question #35  
My line was the black plastic pipe. Pretty easy to cut. You need to preheat this pipe prior to pushing a barbed fitting in it. You can use a propane torch to do this but don't hold it still and just heat for a few (5 maybe) seconds. You are just trying to soften the plastic a little. Push the fitting in while the pipe is still warm (basically immediately) and use two hose clamps on each connection point.
 

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