Front Wheel Brakes?

[Indian MC]

On my B2601 there is a clip on the two Brake pedals. Is this for Front and Rear Brakes? ( lock them both together )
I have the Machine off the ground and while applying both pedals there is no front Braking.
Lock both pedals down. The front wheels spin freely by hand.
Phoned home to the wife. She comes outside and muscled both brake pedals down with her foot and the front wheels show no resistance at all.
What are these two pedals for? Left and Right Rears?

 

[Inspector507]

One pedal for right rear. One pedal for left rear. It has no front brakes.

 

[jeff9366]

No tractor has front brakes. Tractors have rear brakes only. If you are in 4-WD, you have limited braking applied to the front wheels through the transmission linkage to the rear wheels.

Brakes are separate, left and right rear wheels, so you can turn your tractor within its length, like a tank. Such turning works best with gear transmission.

Take time to read your Operator's Manual.

 

[ovrszd]

Only time you'll have front wheel "braking" is when in 4wd. And then it's not due to there being brake assemblies on the front axle. It's due to the rear driveline and front driveline being locked together. Rear brake application is then also transferred to front axle thru this driveline. Always recommended to use 4wd when going downhill in steep terrain for this reason.

 

[dieselcrawler]

Off topic, but front brake related...

My brother in law tells of an old guy he knew that rigged up front brakes on an old 8N type tractor he used for brush hogging his steep hills. Know little more than what I just shared, would love to see how he did it, what tires he used, etc.

I've seen the hills he supposedly used it on, I wouldn't mow them, and some of you have seen pictures of what extreme I'm willing to go, to put the hills into perspective.

 

[ovrszd]

Off topic, but front brake related...

My brother in law tells of an old guy he knew that rigged up front brakes on an old 8N type tractor he used for brush hogging his steep hills. Know little more than what I just shared, would love to see how he did it, what tires he used, etc.

I've seen the hills he supposedly used it on, I wouldn't mow them, and some of you have seen pictures of what extreme I'm willing to go, to put the hills into perspective.

He must have found an auto front hub that would fit the tractor spindle??

What's that saying that ends in "the Mother of Invention"???? Can't remember the first part???

 

[Indian MC]

Only time you'll have front wheel "braking" is when in 4wd. And then it's not due to there being brake assemblies on the front axle. It's due to the rear driveline and front driveline being locked together. Rear brake application is then also transferred to front axle thru this driveline. Always recommended to use 4wd when going downhill in steep terrain for this reason.

Thanks, when the Tractor was delivered I asked why the clip locking the two brake pedals. The delivery person said all brakes locked and to leave the clip attached to both pedals.
I assumed front & rear. I pulled the front wheel off and noticed there is no brakes up front.

 

[dieselcrawler]

The pedal lock is more of a safety devices than anything else. I rarely lock mine, unless I need the maximum parking brake application on a hill, etc. Manufacturers lawyers recommend locking them to avoid the swerve to one side that would happen should you hit only one brake at higher speeds on the road... I have trained my foot to cover both or left or right as needed, by feel.

 

[ovrszd]

Thanks, when the Tractor was delivered I asked why the clip locking the two brake pedals. The delivery person said all brakes locked and to leave the clip attached to both pedals.
I assumed front & rear. I pulled the front wheel off and noticed there is no brakes up front.

The pedal lock is so regardless where you put your foot on the pedal both rear wheel brakes are applied. This is especially important if hauling the tractor and using the brakes locked on. With HST tractors they sometimes don't have a pedal lock mechanism. Not sure on your tractor.

Most brake pedals are configured close together so it's easy to apply brakes to both rear tires at the same time by simply centering your foot across both pedals.

I NEVER operate my tractor with the pedals locked together. If I want both wheels to brake I place my foot centered on the pedals. If I want a specific wheel to brake I shift the location of my foot.

There are operators that NEVER operate their tractor with the pedals unlocked. That's personal preference. Your owners manual may tell you to lock the pedals together. Your personal choice/use may vary.

 

[ovrszd]

There ya go. Two opinions, worded differently, basically telling you the same thing.

Again, you will develop your own style as Greg and I have.

 

[Gary Fowler]

No tractor has front brakes. ..

While this is true of USA tractors, I understand that some European tractors do have front brakes simple because they use them on the highway a lot hauling or towing trailers and their laws require them.

My LS has automatic 4 WD engagement when I press the brake pedal so it essentially brakes with all 4 wheels via the transmission locking all the wheels together.

I am in the corner of not ever locking my pedals together. I want to be able to steer the front end around tighter if needed by applying the correct brake. It is not difficult to place your foot on both pedals at the same time if needed.

My LS has a separate parking brake so no need to lock the pedals together to then lock the brakes. However my Kubota has no parking brake and thus to be able to lock both brakes, you need to flip the little lever to lock both pedals together if you want both sides to brake since the pedal lock only locks the left hand side. I never lock them since just one brake holds great and will stall the tractor if I forget to unlock the pedal. The pedal locks are just not needed for me.

 

[k0ua]

He must have found an auto front hub that would fit the tractor spindle??

What's that saying that ends in "the Mother of Invention"???? Can't remember the first part???

Necessity is the mother of invention.

 

[ovrszd]

Necessity is the mother of invention.

Yep, that's it.

 

[dieselcrawler]

I heard my dad say one time... your memory us the second thing to go... but I can't remember what the first thing is!

 

[bcp]

Necessity is the mother of invention.

And Thrifty is the father. Or maybe it was Stingy or Cheap. You can often tell by looking at the invention.

Bruce

 

[dickfoster]

On my B2601 there is a clip on the two Brake pedals. Is this for Front and Rear Brakes? ( lock them both together )
I have the Machine off the ground and while applying both pedals there is no front Braking.
Lock both pedals down. The front wheels spin freely by hand.
Phoned home to the wife. She comes outside and muscled both brake pedals down with her foot and the front wheels show no resistance at all.
What are these two pedals for? Left and Right Rears?

You might try reading your operators manual sometime. You might be surprised at what you'll find in it.

 

[gwstang]

On the L2501 manual gear tractor, I leave them unlocked so when I'm bush hogging and get to the end of the field for a turn, I can just hit the brake pedal for the way I'm turning and it will swing around on a dime and give me 5 cents change...lo. Really works good if I'm going a little too fast. Seat belt on because it will just about throw me off the tractor. I was use to the old 8N for years and it would not turn so quickly like that.

 

[Indian MC]

On the L2501 manual gear tractor, I leave them unlocked so when I'm bush hogging and get to the end of the field for a turn, I can just hit the brake pedal for the way I'm turning and it will swing around on a dime and give me 5 cents change...lo. Really works good if I'm going a little too fast. Seat belt on because it will just about throw me off the tractor. I was use to the old 8N for years and it would not turn so quickly like that.

Thanks, it makes sense. You can use L&R for working and not just stopping with this setup on a Tractor. BTW Dickfoster, in the several places where brakes are mentioned in my manual, it always refers to left and right pedals. Nothing said about what wheels receive what for braking. ( This is my first Tractor ) The manual Recommends to lock both pedals together when parking, and not to use single pedals when traveling at high speeds etc. I wish one of the other motor vehicles I own had only a thirty page manual like this Kubota. She is Over 1" thick. It's been three years, and I'm only half way through that one.

 

[CobyRupert]

Now that you've received:
Wheel Braking 101 : Use individually wheel brakes to turn sharply. Lock pedals together to apply both brakes (for parking and accidental high speed braking swerves).

Lets move on to:
Independent Wheel Braking 202: When getting stuck, apply braking to the spinning tire so torque is transferred to the tire that has more traction.

 

[ovrszd]

Now that you've received:
Wheel Braking 101 : Use individually wheel brakes to turn sharply. Lock pedals together to apply both brakes (for parking and accidental high speed braking swerves).

Lets move on to:
Independent Wheel Braking 202: When getting stuck, apply braking to the spinning tire so torque is transferred to the tire that has more traction.

Diff Lock.