Ford aluminum body vs Ram steel - can the Ram do as well?

   / Ford aluminum body vs Ram steel - can the Ram do as well? #31  
With the recent price increases on trucks I'm starting to wonder if my penchant for trying to get an F250 at (what I consider) a decent price is futile.
Since my wife agreed we needed a new truck I had focused on Fords due to the no rust body in my rust prone environment (Mississippi).
But with ~ a $10K difference in price I'm wondering if diligent rust prevention could make up the difference.
Comments?

No rust issues to speak of in our part of the country!

Does it really need to be a brand new, why not buy couple of years old low mileage F250?
 
   / Ford aluminum body vs Ram steel - can the Ram do as well? #32  
Well in north eastern Mississippi everything iron based rusts. I agree it does not rust through as quickly as in the north where there is a freeze thaw cycle but exposed steel develops rust quickly.
After 15 years I'm still amazed at how minimal the rust issue is here, compared to SoCal where I used to live.

Freeze/thaw cycles don't seem to matter, or things frequently getting wet. Steel just doesn't rust much here.

For example, this crankshaft was put in the scrap metal pile just over two weeks ago, and it has rained and/or snowed every day since. Yes, it's starting to rust in two spots, but it wasn't oily to begin with and has laid around in the garage for some 20 years.
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Another example are these 6x6 posts for a lean-to, put up about eight years ago, which have obviously been exposed to the weather ever since.
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To me it seems like air quality (including any salt in the air), humidity, and even elevation, has a lot to do with whether things rust or not.
 
   / Ford aluminum body vs Ram steel - can the Ram do as well? #33  
Most of the wheel wells have been plastic in the lat twenty plus years. It’s the rest that needs attention. Typically aluminum on vehicles creates higher insurance.
 
   / Ford aluminum body vs Ram steel - can the Ram do as well? #34  
Salt isn't corrosive until it gets wet. Up here, plowing snow its usually sub 32* so washing does nothing but build ice.

Salt lingers on roads for weeks after it’s applied. If you get salt applied and then it thaws in the sun, it’s in the moisture on the roads surface for a long time and up in your frames and all the crevices.

If someone has a garage where a vehicle can be power washed inside..THOROUGHLY.. It may help the rot cycle for a couple years, But the areas inside the frames, between springs, behind placed the rinse can't hit.. Will all rust and the wash will expedite that as well.

Not if you use HOT water. I do because it evaporates more. I then pull the truck inside. It’s as dry as a popcorn fart in under an hour. Place a fan on the floor that blows underneath and it’s even faster.

Im a believer in spraying the underside yearly with an oil base product.
So am I.
But if you have salt packed into those crevices, spraying the underside with an oil base product won’t help in those areas.
 
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   / Ford aluminum body vs Ram steel - can the Ram do as well? #35  
Most of the wheel wells have been plastic in the lat twenty plus years. It’s the rest that needs attention. Typically aluminum on vehicles creates higher insurance.
The plastic inner fender wells are an issue because they allow the crud and salt residue to collect and do their dirty work on the innerside of the wheel wells where most people cannot or don't take the time to clean them. I do. In fact after pressure washing the wheel wells, I reach up under the wheel arches and make doubly sure I've got the crud out. It's the wet crud there that causes rust. Sake dal with frames, The crud laying on the lower and upper top flanges of a frame rusts them out, well on a lot of trucks today that aren't unibody that is.

Normal washing, me it a car wash or home wash, rarely if ever get that crud and mud (with a dose of sodium) removed.
 
   / Ford aluminum body vs Ram steel - can the Ram do as well? #36  
I'm in Michigan, heart of the rust belt and I will never buy anther steel bodied truck after owning my 2015 aluminum body F-150 for several years. They don't dent as easy and with 10 years on Michigan winter roads the body is still in perfect condition. No corrosion, no dents, no nothing, still looks brand new. The Frame is still steel so it requires maintenance but after having several rusty trucks with less years on them than my 2015 I'm a fan for sure and for me worth the $$. Rust repair isn't cheap.
 
   / Ford aluminum body vs Ram steel - can the Ram do as well? #37  
I sure am glad I live in a relatively corrosion free environment. My cars get washed when the rain falls, if salt is used on the roads once or twice a year, it is often washed off in a good rain a week or two later. A belly wash is driving through a large puddle at moderate speed. My 2006 Caravan is just starting to show a hint of rust near the wheel wells.
I can always tell if a vehicle I am working on has lived in Kansas City or points north, time to get the hot wrench out to break things loose under the car or truck and hope the bolts don't break off!!
 
   / Ford aluminum body vs Ram steel - can the Ram do as well? #38  
I know of a place in Colorado that puts sacrificial anodes on metal body panels and then grounds them to the frame. Mountain towns of Colorado put tons of salt on the roads and a car will be lucky to survive 5 winters there. The rusting via salt is to due positive ions, that use the salt solution as a vehicle, to seek a ground. If those ions seek a ground via an anode, the body panel will not rust. Physics.

It seems to really prevent rusting.

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Why they are used on boats in salt water. Really hadn't thought of that for vehicle use, good idea. I've not had any rust issues though, I'm one of the "wash the underside" types. LOL
 
   / Ford aluminum body vs Ram steel - can the Ram do as well? #39  
I'm in Michigan, heart of the rust belt and I will never buy anther steel bodied truck after owning my 2015 aluminum body F-150 for several years. They don't dent as easy and with 10 years on Michigan winter roads the body is still in perfect condition. No corrosion, no dents, no nothing, still looks brand new. The Frame is still steel so it requires maintenance but after having several rusty trucks with less years on them than my 2015 I'm a fan for sure and for me worth the $$. Rust repair isn't cheap.
I have a 2016 f150 with 180,000 miles. The body is still like new. Dove her 112 miles a day in western NY weather, and we all know how NY loves their salt.
 
   / Ford aluminum body vs Ram steel - can the Ram do as well? #40  
I'm in Michigan, heart of the rust belt and I will never buy anther steel bodied truck after owning my 2015 aluminum body F-150 for several years. They don't dent as easy and with 10 years on Michigan winter roads the body is still in perfect condition. No corrosion, no dents, no nothing, still looks brand new. The Frame is still steel so it requires maintenance but after having several rusty trucks with less years on them than my 2015 I'm a fan for sure and for me worth the $$. Rust repair isn't cheap.
I live and farm in Michigan as well and relocated here from Northern Ohio (another rust capital). Not sure why I moved to Michigan, still scratching my head over that, maybe had something to do with my wife and her job at the Department of Defense or something and in many ways I regret moving here. Insurance, both auto and property is stupid high, real estate taxes are insane as well, roads are terrible (most resemble bombed out runways) and Michiganders drive like idiots for the most part, lots of reasons why I should have stayed a Buckeye.

Far as an aluminum bodied pickup truck, even GM is using aluminum for body parts and has been and while you probably won't experience rust (oxidation) through of body panels, have no doubt the aluminum oxidation is there, on the inside of the body parts and occurring for the same exact reason that steel bodies rust, cathodic oxidation from the salt and or brine applied to the highways that collect on the inside of your body parts. Simple fact. Like it or not, the salt / brine is eating away at your body panels. One important aspect of aluminum bodies and that is, the cost to repair them but I suspect that your electrical system will succumb to the salt / brine, long before your aluminum body fails. Living in Michigan has some distinct 'advantages'...lol
 

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