Ford 3000 diesel project Help please

   / Ford 3000 diesel project Help please #1  
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I have a 1969 3000 diesel I just rebuilt; bored, sleeved, new pistons, rings, etc. It was running before but had low compression. I just finished the rebuild and tried to crank and it will not hit. I checked the timing and reset the intermediate gear with the fly on 0 degrees the #1 valves positioned correctly, the injection pump on 0 degrees etc. All gears are lined up and dotted per the book. It still won't hit. It has a CAV pump. I have bleed everything on the fuel system and have fuel to the injectors. The injectors are new because our local shop wanted more money to clean and reset them than a new set cost me. I am wondering if they may be the wrong injectors for this application. Anyone have an idea what else may cause this problem.
Thanks
 
   / Ford 3000 diesel project Help please #2  
could be the wrong injectors since them tractors also came with a simms pump but when i time a 3000 i set the fly wheel on 18 degrees btdc
 
   / Ford 3000 diesel project Help please #3  
G'day as stated they did come out with both pumps but i am sure your shop would have sold you the right inj ..... the pump timing worries me though i donot have a manual on hand to check but 0deg does not sound right to me



Jon
 
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#4  
Wow thanks. That could be it. I get lots of white smoke out of the exhaust when we try to crank it, so I am sure we are getting fuel to the pistons.
 
   / Ford 3000 diesel project Help please #5  
I have a 1969 3000 diesel I just rebuilt; bored, sleeved, new pistons, rings, etc. It was running before but had low compression. I just finished the rebuild and tried to crank and it will not hit. I checked the timing and reset the intermediate gear with the fly on 0 degrees the #1 valves positioned correctly, the injection pump on 0 degrees etc. All gears are lined up and dotted per the book. It still won't hit. It has a CAV pump. I have bleed everything on the fuel system and have fuel to the injectors. The injectors are new because our local shop wanted more money to clean and reset them than a new set cost me. I am wondering if they may be the wrong injectors for this application. Anyone have an idea what else may cause this problem.
Thanks

If you're timed to TDC I think that's your problem. Byt the time the fuel is injected the piston is way down on the powerstroke and the temperature and is dropping in the cylinder. It should some where between 15° and 20° BTDC. Your owners manual or shop manual should tell you the correct timing.
 
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#6  
So you dot the cam and crank with the fly wheel at 18 BTDC or do you set the cam, and crank at 0 deg, then rotate it to 18 deg and install the injector pump?
 
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#7  
I reset the injector gear with the fly wheel at 18 deg BTDC. It only moved the injector gear 1 tooth. Still won't hit. I tried a couple of teeth either direction, still won't hit. Any suggestions?
 
   / Ford 3000 diesel project Help please #8  
u must have all the dots on the gears lined up then u can also advance the pump up to 30 degrees and retarded it 30 degrees by loosening the 3 bolts on the injection pump and turn it on derection or the other
 
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#9  
Not on my pump it is a CAV and it has a dowel, it will only bolt up 1 way.
 
   / Ford 3000 diesel project Help please #10  
the three bolts that hold the pump on not the the drive gear
 

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