first 50hr,2310

[pathman]

Well boys, I'm coming up on the firs 50hr on my 2310, so far this machine has impressed me and I still can't get over some of the boulders I was abl to dig out and move around. I have been reading about oils on the site and am still on the fence on what oils I will use at my firs 50, I would like to go to synthetic in the hyd and engine, Dealer saysthat warrenty will be void if there is a problem. (surprise surprise) he doesn't even carry any synthetis oils to replacethe permatran, The owners manual only mentions permatran and does not give any MIL specs, Does anyone out there have some info. I know some of you are running Mobil syn in the tarnsmistion but I can't find it here in Quebec. any equivilants?

 

[ray66v]

The dealer is full of it on the warranty. The manual saysermatran 3 or equivalent. IT DOES NOT SAY PERMATRAN 3 ONLY. It also does not say mineral oil only. If the oil you use, meets the equivalent specs for Permatran, you have complied with the warranty requirement, period.

Contact Amsoil and they will have an engineer explain the specs to you. ATH synthetic, (what a lot of us use), meets the requirements for Permatran 3 and then some. Amsoil also guarantees that you will be covered under your warranty. So, don't buy the dealers bull.

Don't forget the oil in the front axle, and too clean the hyd. oil screen behind the left wheel.

 

[MasseyBC]

Stick with Permatran until your warranty period is up. My 2005 2310 had a defective rear end that failed after 200 hrs. Cost to rebuild was over $3000.00 Cdn. First thing the dealer asked was what fluid I had been using. I asked why and the dealer told me it could effect the warranty claim. It just isn't worth the trouble or what could be alot of money to prove your case.

 

[ray66v]

For those who are considering "sticking" with Permatran:

While Permatran is a good product, remember, if you stick to Permatran you will also have to stick to the 20-30+ minute warm up schedule in your owners manual for cold weather operation.

Each time you fire it up, and run all that cold, heavy, unable to lubricate well quite yet, Permatran oil through the pump, for 30 minutes warming it up, its probably not hurting it that much. Or the day when you CAN'T wait the 30 minutes, because you have to go to work. So you only give it 5 minutes and then run the heck out of it plowing the drive, probably won't hurt the trans. or shorten its life that much.

This is the exact reason synthetic oils were developed. because mineral oils thicken and don't lubricate well in cold weather.

Its your investment, you have to make the call.

 

[tx2310]

So let me see here, if I use your product and go out on a -30 degree F morning and fire up my tractor and start plowing snow with no warm up. The transaxle fails under the warranty period. What do you have to show that if I did not follow the printed operational manual for warm up, I will not void my warranty. I am a strong supporter of synthetic oil, but lets get real.

Doug

 

[DEWFPO]

At 50 hrs I wanted to switch to all synthetics as well since I do blow snow in very cold temps. The only synthetics I found that met or exceeded the MF specifications were Amsoil products. I had never used Amsoil before but their products have great reputations so I used their HDD 5W30 Heavy Duty Diesel Engine Oil in the engine and their ATH Synthetic Tractor Hydraulic/Transmission Oil in the Hydro unit. I've been running them since last September and have been very happy.

DEWFPO

 

[MasseyBC]

All I am trying to say, is to be careful what fluids you use WHILE UNDER WARRANTY. AGCO has the FINAL SAY on what is or isn't allowed. This is no bull. Amsoil has fine products and I have used them for years. But I would get something in writing from AGRO as to what fluids are allowed to be used while your tractor is under warranty. I am only saying this because of my own personal experience with a very costly warranty repair. Remember, the first question the dealer asked was what fluids had I used.

 

[DMW]

Pathman, check out Petro Canada's Duratran synthetic. An all season fluid that meets every major tractor manufacturer's specs. You'll have to call for prices from a Petro Canada bulk fuel distributor. Given your location, there should be one nearby.
http://lubricants.petro-canada.ca/en/products/567.aspx
http://lubricants.petro-canada.ca/resource/download.aspx?type=TechData&iproduct=995&language=en

 

[ray66v]

So let me see here, if I use your product and go out on a -30 degree F morning and fire up my tractor and start plowing snow with no warm up.

Doug

Who the **** SAID THAT???

 

[ray66v]

All I am trying to say, is to be careful what fluids you use WHILE UNDER WARRANTY. AGCO has the FINAL SAY on what is or isn't allowed.
Remember, the first question the dealer asked was what fluids had I used.

Yes, and they say Permatran OR equivalent. This means you can use other fluids.

If your that worried about what they think, tell them you used Permatran.