First 5 hrs on the B7800

[logan97]

First 5 hrs on the B7800 fun fun fun we got 11 plus inches of snow 2 day,s ago so I got 5 hrs of serious seat time. Never owning a tractor before and being in the VA mountains was not the best scenario for a beginner but all went well. The slopes on the road and driveway took 100% attention, the neighbors drive is steeper than ours . I did most of the work with the fel, I believe I will need to get some weights as the front is light ( ? will I need a bracket). I also will most likely get chains as I had to mess some what to go in the direction I wanted.The brakes would have helped but, How do I operate the brakes while using the accelerator pedal as they are on the same side. It is quite apparent there is a learning curve for the inching 3 pt control. It is a mystery to me why it was not just designed to go up and down ? Had it in four wheel drive the whole time plenty of power not enough weight. If anyone has any suggestion,recommendations I am all ears.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

What were you going to use the brakes for? Moving accelerator pedal to middle or slightly reversed will stop you. I've never used the brakes on a tractor I've owned (#2 was a B7800) except while stopped, not stopping, already stopped with HST pedal, on a steep hill while talking and not going back or forth. The 3ph will go up and down. Hold lever back and it goes up and pushing all the way into the detent will go down, I think. Sounds to me like you had to much down force on fel when you mention to light in front end. I did my snow today and it does the same thing until I pulled back slightly on the fel down pressure. To much down force causes front wheels to lift off the ground which impairs steering. Also tilting the bucket a bit more toward level helps in snow. Experience will help.

 

[logan97]

Thanks JT. Brakes for steering. Yes I let off the float a number of times and it helped. The weights I thought may help on the steep uphill as the bucket was off the ground slightly just backed off the pressure.This is where the brakes and I believe weights would help ? The three point will take some getting use to it was just hard to get it just right, I wish it had a float option for snow as it would dig in one moment and the next be off the ground completely ?

 

[whistlepig]

I don't think a factory bracket and weights will fit on a B7800 with the loader on. The weights interfere with the loader. I don't think weights help as much as chains in snow or ice.

 

[Bill Hoffman]

On my B7800 I replaced the vertical links on the 3pt with pieces of
chain. The rear blade can now float over the surface and doesn't
dig into the driveway. Works better than I thought.

Bill

 

[logan97]

you mean the top link "singular" and just use the weight of the rear blade?

On my B7800 I replaced the vertical links on the 3pt with pieces of
chain. The rear blade can now float over the surface and doesn't
dig into the driveway. Works better than I thought.

Bill

 

[bill1]

I have a B21, and I wondered about the brakes and the "gas", (lol), being on the same side too. However, I found out right away, (like johnthomas), that I almost never use them.

Hmmm, I don't want to get in trouble with the tractor police, but the only time I have used brakes is while inching up to a hole or gully with a bucketfull of dirt and I want to get as close to the edge as I can. In this case, I'm not actually using the brakes, I just put one foot on the gas and the other foot on the brakes without depressing the pedal as a safety... If you do this yourself, I've found that you should leave your right foot on the gas and swing the left foot over for the brake. My right foot has much better gas pedal intuitiveness than my left foot, lol.

 

[whistlepig]

I have a B21, and I wondered about the brakes and the "gas", (lol), being on the same side too. However, I found out right away, (like johnthomas), that I almost never use them.

Hmmm, I don't want to get in trouble with the tractor police, but the only time I have used brakes is while inching up to a hole or gully with a bucketfull of dirt and I want to get as close to the edge as I can. In this case, I'm not actually using the brakes, I just put one foot on the gas and the other foot on the brakes without depressing the pedal as a safety... If you do this yourself, I've found that you should leave your right foot on the gas and swing the left foot over for the brake. My right foot has much better gas pedal intuitiveness than my left foot, lol.

I think you mean the hydro petal instead of the gas pedal. I've done this. Using my right foot to rock the brakes and hydro pedal at the same time. It's not easy to do. Forget trying to steer with the brakes and using the hydro pedal at the same time. I'll have to ding my Kubota on this one. Having the brakes on the same side with the hydro pedal.

 

[logan97]

so what is the purpose for the right and left brake ?

 

[whistlepig]

so what is the purpose for the right and left brake ?

For me the right and left brakes are for use with ground engaging equipment like a plow or disc. With these things stuck in the ground steering with a steering wheel is minimal or not at all. The tail is wagging the dog so to speak. The steering brakes overcome this with ground engaging equipment. You can make corrections to maintain a straight line that a steering wheel can't do.