Firewood/splitting wood and Beetles?

   / Firewood/splitting wood and Beetles? #1  

SPMMD

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Growing up I manually split wood with a sledge hammer and a wedge.

Most of the wood split was from felled tree hardwood left over from clearing my parents building lot. Through the years I dealt with carpenter ant colonies, yellow jacket nests and eventually old, rotting wood.

I now, 50 years later own a heavily wooded property where I live, and for a good part of the year burn wood for heat. I only cut and split trees that come down in storms and try to preserve the forest nature of my property.

Some trees come down due to high winds, but many are coming down with disease, beetles and rot!

Cutting and splitting rounds of wood, I have come across large one inch larva, and areas filled vestwith what sees like hundreds of black beetles ranging in size from a few millimeters up to just under a centimeter in length. The larva and Beatles are alive and active!

Will these beetles and larva survive and attack my cut and stacked/ seasoning firewood that was healthy?

Or will they die off and not survive living in now dead cut wood?

Not myself being an entomologist I don't know. To all of you folks who cut, split, stack and burn wood, what should I do with the tree or wood harvested and spilt when I find beetles?

Are they parasites that will die off or seek other living trees to attack, or will they live on in my firewood stacks and attack my other split seasoning uninvolved wood like saporifites?

I certainly don't want them to live on and destroy my firewood like I experienced with carpenter ants, what should be done with the infested trees and split wood?
 
   / Firewood/splitting wood and Beetles? #2  
My personal view is cut and split the wood. Beetles and Larva burn just fine in my wood stove. I often find grubs, ants, beetles and other creepy crawlies in my firewood stack. I do keep the firewood stacked under a shed, away from the house.

I can still remember back in the 80's, I had just installed my first wood stove. Since I worked out of town every wk, before I left for work, I would stack a big pile in the wood box beside the stove, so my wife wasnt carrying wood all wk. One morning we woke up to about a million praying mantis crawling all over the walls of the house. I suspect these bugs hatched out inside the house from eggs laid in the firewood. We sucked them all up with the vaccum cleaner, but we continued to see them for several wks until we got them all. Wife wasnt to pleased about the bugs and from then on it was stack the wood on the porch and not inside the house.
 
   / Firewood/splitting wood and Beetles? #3  
If what you are finding are Pine Beetles they will go to healthy trees now...all wood you find beetles in is supposed to be removed from the area of healthy trees or burned ...That is what our County extension agent has told me in the past.
 
   / Firewood/splitting wood and Beetles? #4  
most beetles will survive ( the ones that are still under the bark you don't damage ) and hatch out to infest other trees ( or crawl to new ones )

perhaps you can wrap / cover the offending logs in plastic or tarps to prevent the spread ( if the amount of wood is small )

keep them outside till just before burning , and keep the wood to burn (inside) to a minimum ..


things have changed since we all grew up .... around here , they have imposed wood bans from trees outside our area to stop the spread .,,,,

It didn't work and we have Gypsy moth and Emerald Ash borers and .....

the city just cut down the trees and were supposed to chip and dispose of the mulch ... it got as far as putting the cut trees in the dump. The city never chipped the trees ( why pay for it ? they're already cut down, right ?) and they had a massive hatching ( OOOOHH, that's why ... finally cluing in )
 
   / Firewood/splitting wood and Beetles? #5  
Cover your woodpile with a tarp and weight it down on the outside edges.
Get a hose that fits over your tractor's exhaust pipe.
Pipe the exhaust under the tarp and gas 'em all.
Not sure it will actually kill the bugs, but it might be satisfying anyways.
 
   / Firewood/splitting wood and Beetles? #6  
My county is in a firewood quarrantine. As are many in VA. The pests are winning.

Here's a link to some information with pics:

Firewood quarantine

I'm getting my rear end kicked by Pine borer. It feels like a losing battle. No more Eastern White Pine for me. Nearby, the state forced a landowner to log a large stand of White Pines due to infestation.
 
   / Firewood/splitting wood and Beetles?
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Tree/ beetles hardwood, not pine. Part of my question was whether the larva or beetles would remain alive living off the now dead/split wood and would attack the other seasoning wood? Naturally I would hate to see these nasty buggers attack my healthy trees too! Especially if in doing so it proliferates the problem!
 
   / Firewood/splitting wood and Beetles? #9  
Call me fancy but when splitting, any piece thats bug infested , drilled or rotten is thrown in the tractor bucket and then dumped in a swamp when full.

Guess I am a bit of a wood snob
 
   / Firewood/splitting wood and Beetles? #10  
Call me fancy but when splitting, any piece thats bug infested , drilled or rotten is thrown in the tractor bucket and then dumped in a swamp when full.

Guess I am a bit of a wood snob

Back when I was heating with wood, and later when I was cutting it for Mamma, I would see all imperfect pieces were destroyed. As soon as they came up in the queue, they were promptly burned.

Larro
 

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