This sure devolved into a global warming debate. You can take snapshots of data and manipulate them to tell any story you want.
In the 70s they were worried about global cooling.
California has record droughts..then record floods. I have read about the great floods they have every 200 years on average. In the 1800s the Central Valley was supposedly flooded, and the native people left for higher ground. Then it gets dry again. Each time the greenies claim it is the worst ever and we areall going to die. It probably isn't, but we do not have records from 1000 years ago. A lot of this was determined by looking at how much silt was washed into the bays of CA at certain times. Some years the silt layers were much greater in depth. Flood, fires, droughts...
The medieval warm period.
The little ice age.
What about cool summers after a volcanic eruption?
According to some older projections I should have ocean front property in a few years. Not likely.
We have been warming since the last ice age started to end.
Greenland was green when the Vikings went there. It got cold again, and they disappeared.
My point is climate varies. There are way too many people in many areas, and the land has been degraded. I have no doubt that we are destroying and changing the environment. Most of our land has been plowed or cleared and changed.
In Dallas it is much warmer at night than it is out here in the country. Concrete, cars, and too many buildings have made it that way.
You can take whatever viewpoint you want. I don't think there is much we can do about the environment without having less people or a much lower standard of living.
We could pollute less and recycle more, but if we are the only one's doing it, it won't help at all. There will be billions more people just throwing trash in the oceans.
In Texas we have not been building new power plants as the population increases. We have even shut down coal fired plants and some natural gas fired plants. We have installed wind and solar. Now ERCOT is saying we may have brownouts or rolling blackouts at peak summer demand. What happens on a 105 degree summer day when it is still 90 degrees in Dallas at midnight? Too many people running air conditioning..grid fails. Add electric cars without more energy production. Oh but they can use my car battery to help the grid at night. wtf? Then how will I get to work? This is a disaster in the making caused by poor planning and a lack of accepting reality.
The problem is this has become political. Instead of actually doing something they play games with us. In the end those that try to work and pay the bills will be the ones that get screwed by these unsustainable policies. I am not one of those that wants to live in a high rise apartment stacked on top of each other with no car, walking to the store or work every day. I suspect most of you on here would not like that either. At some point our freedoms may eventually go away because what we are doing is not sustainable.
There are lots of dumb ideas being floated around that only work in the mind of the person that came up with the idea. Reality says we can't keep doing what we are doing long term.