Fence post corner...? Wrong?????

ovrszd · Nov 11, 2018

oosik said:
That middle picture tells the story. The wire bracing must be in an X pattern. As they are now - they are pulling that center post right out of the ground.

For any corner or change of direction I always use a rock filled gabion. Its about four tons of rock - stacked in a 4' x 4' x4' cube. I use old rejected industrial shelving. It is in 4'x16' chunks with expanded metal as the decking of the shelf. Cut & fold and you have a four sided cube. Locate where needed and fill with rock.

Wow!!! Tremendous amount of work to turn a corner. Got any pics?? Thanks.

oosik · Nov 11, 2018

I had two pictures specifically showing the gabions. For the life of me - I can't find them anywhere on the computer. Actually, the entire gabion situation is very easy for me. The neighboring original homestead has miles of rock walls. They built the walls when they cleared the rocks out of the fields. With the permission of the current owner - it was easy to gather the rock off the walls and put them in the gabions. I will get pics tomorrow and post - its too late and too cold at this moment.

bruceha2000 · Nov 11, 2018

Fuddy1952 said:
Horses.
My across the road friend has beef cows, 5" post every 60ft. For whatever reason for the few dollars more I like the large posts every 50ft.
The new neighbors have horses, going to get goats, cows, chickens, Lord knows what else. Their fence they had 'professionally' installed just 6ft steel T posts every 10ft, no posts. Fence already had a huge hole in it a couple weeks ago from running a bush hog through it to avoid a rabbit.
He's a dentist.

I like some wood posts as well, not so fond of digging the holes for them though. Of course the acre I fenced in 2 years ago was done by hand, didn't have the tractor then (haven't yet used the PH auger I got with the tractor a couple of months ago). Plus, I have lots of rocks and ledge, even a PH auger won't put holes in that. I have one fence line that is about 300'. About 120' of woven field fence (including H brace, fence, H brace) then a 12' gate, a floating braced post then field fence to the floating braced post at the corner. I hit ledge at 2' so I had to use concrete on that post. The "field" is filled with 7.5' T-posts spaced 10', sunk 2.5'. Of course the only animals I have in it are a bunch of chickens and 2 alpacas. Neither are hard on fences.

6' T- posts? Sunk 2' so a 4' fence? And no wood H-braces even at the corners? Does this neighbor have hot wire along the inside of the fence? Lots of people do that to keep the animals from putting any pressure on the fence itself. Height of the hot wire depends on the animals you want to keep away from the fence. Has your neighbor figured out that chickens can fly a 4' fence?

oosik said:
... For any corner or change of direction I always use a rock filled gabion. Its about four tons of rock - stacked in a 4' x 4' x4' cube. I use old rejected industrial shelving. It is in 4'x16' chunks with expanded metal as the decking of the shelf. Cut & fold and you have a four sided cube. Locate where needed and fill with rock.

Must be tough to get the fencing to the post I would think.

Fuddy1952 · Nov 11, 2018

bruceha2000 said:
I like some wood posts as well, not so fond of digging the holes for them though. Of course the acre I fenced in 2 years ago was done by hand, didn't have the tractor then (haven't yet used the PH auger I got with the tractor a couple of months ago). Plus, I have lots of rocks and ledge, even a PH auger won't put holes in that. I have one fence line that is about 300'. About 120' of woven field fence (including H brace, fence, H brace) then a 12' gate, a floating braced post then field fence to the floating braced post at the corner. I hit ledge at 2' so I had to use concrete on that post. The "field" is filled with 7.5' T-posts spaced 10', sunk 2.5'. Of course the only animals I have in it are a bunch of chickens and 2 alpacas. Neither are hard on fences.

6' T- posts? Sunk 2' so a 4' fence? And no wood H-braces even at the corners? Does this neighbor have hot wire along the inside of the fence? Lots of people do that to keep the animals from putting any pressure on the fence itself. Height of the hot wire depends on the animals you want to keep away from the fence. Has your neighbor figured out that chickens can fly a 4' fence?

Must be tough to get the fencing to the post I would think.

Yes, Bruce...it's a weird fence.
Nice, wonderful people...but not farmers.
They did put plastic insulator caps on top of posts with electric fence wire. It's always off though.
It's been very entertaining though!

oosik · Nov 12, 2018

OK - Just so you know - its 26F and blowing here as I ventured to the very far corner of the property for these pictures. This gabion is the NW corner of my 80 acres. I took a tape measurer and it is - four feet wide by four feet deep by three feet high. The barb wire simply ties into the expanded metal on the sides. My eleven month old Chocolate Lab - Olly - didn't seem to mind the cold at all. I have six of these gabions on the fence line at various points around the property. The picture of the property - North is UP - West is to the Left - etc, etc.View attachment 578556 View attachment 578557 View attachment 578558 View attachment 578559 View attachment 578560 View attachment 578561

Why the gabion here at the NW corner. At this point there is 14" of dirt over solid basaltic lava bedrock. A gabion is much easier, stronger and guaranteed to last almost forever. The rock walls where I get the rock for the gabion is about a quarter mile to the NW of this location.

Fuddy1952 · Nov 12, 2018

I've never heard of that but seems like a great idea.
One place I noticed just over into the woods from a pasture is a large pile of quartz rock. I've always wondered what it was. There isn't much rock anywhere in fields, quartz is there and in creek but not that common.
I wonder if it could be an Indian burial mound.

ovrszd · Nov 12, 2018

I guess it could be. Where did they carry the quartz from and how far away is that??

Fuddy1952 · Nov 12, 2018

That's what's so odd. There is quartz around but not all that common. When we get home next week I'll try to remember taking pictures.

bruceha2000 · Nov 12, 2018

oosik said:
OK - Just so you know - its 26F and blowing here as I ventured to the very far corner of the property for these pictures. This gabion is the NW corner of my 80 acres. I took a tape measurer and it is - four feet wide by four feet deep by three feet high. The barb wire simply ties into the expanded metal on the sides. My eleven month old Chocolate Lab - Olly - didn't seem to mind the cold at all. I have six of these gabions on the fence line at various points around the property.

Why the gabion here at the NW corner. At this point there is 14" of dirt over solid basaltic lava bedrock. A gabion is much easier, stronger and guaranteed to last almost forever. The rock walls where I get the rock for the gabion is about a quarter mile to the NW of this location.

We appreciate your sacrifice!
OK, got it. I ASSUMED the post was in the middle of the gabion. WRONG! Best not have goats though, they would be over the fence in no time at all.