FEL performance - Blue vs. GreenOrange

[Hoeman00]

W/ the quick-tach the forks replace the bucket so 1 ton in bucket (2' long) is
still heavier than 900# bale on forks (4' long).
If u had bucket forks then that would lower lift cap.
My SSL is only rated at 1750 (1850 w/ counter wt.) which is less than the 35D
lift and I have no problems.
BTW the 6' JD manure/slurry bucket holds 1 ton of gravel or limestone and
most are drilled for cutting edge and toothbar.
If I had my choice get NH loader and 72" or 76" SSL buckets to use.

 

[rockyridgefarm]

In My original comparisons I was looking at mid size frames. So I was comparing the <font color=blue>TC33 7308</font color=blue> to the <font color=green>Deere 4410 430</font color=green> and the <font color=orange>Kubota 3410</font color=orange> loader (whatever the number... )

The Deere and Kubotas are rated high enough, but the NH is too low. I can see that if I move up a frame size I will be better off for the bales. But I will unload bales once or twice a year, the rest of the time I have to get around with this machine. But then I don't want to be overstressing a machine, and like I posted earlier, the lighter loaders might meet my specs foor the bales, but the tractor beneath won't hold up...

I can't overlook that my wife, who is 5'3", will be using this quite a bit, and she needs to be able to work it comfortably.

 

[hazmat]

<font color=blue> can see that if I move up a frame size I will be better off for the bales. But I will unload bales once or twice a year, the rest of the time I have to get around with this machine</font color=blue>

Whatever brand you get, I'd go with the larger frame size. It only takes one rollover to ruin your day. A quick attach bucket and fork is the way to go (vs. the clamp on fork).

Regarding your wife, the sloped hood of the New Holland allows for good visablilty. Get her out to the dealers to try them out. She'll know what fits and doesn't. Some kind of quick hitch for the three point may be in order as well.

I picked New Holland based on the dealer. My first choice was Deere, but I wanted local support & was not happy w/ the local dealer. With 80 acres, your dealer's suggestion for a TN65 is reasonable. If he's as good as you say he is, he'll let you demo both the TN and a TC on your property.

Thinking outside the box a bit. How about keeping the yanmar for the small areas & buying a used utility tractor for the bale work?

 

[rockyridgefarm]

All the suggestions are really great,

<font color=blue>Thinking outside the box a bit. How about keeping the yanmar for the small areas & buying a used utility tractor for the bale work? </font color=blue>

Who said I'd EVER let go of the Yanny? I am adding another tractor because I need to be able to do dirt work, and more efficient mowing. I also need a tractor that I can work with, not on.

I will keep the Yanmar because we love it annnd it is great for my up and coming field hands to get up to speed on before using a bigger unit.

I agree with all the points about ergonomics on the Boomers, I think they would really help both of us...

 

[hazmat]

<font color=blue>Who said I'd EVER let go of the Yanny? I am adding another tractor because I need to be able to do dirt work, and more efficient mowing. I also need a tractor that I can work with, not on. </font color=blue>

Ahhh the TBN dream, a house in the country and two tractors in the barn.

 

[AndyMA]

Having been on tractors most of my life, I don't worry too much about getting around things. I presently have a Ford 2120 and NH TN75D. I had a TN75S but returned it. the Super Steer made the tractor unstable with heavy FEL loads if you were on uneven ground or tried to turn. I tried clamp on front forks and found that they kept relocating themselves, usually at a bad time with a load in the air. I now use Woods Quick Attach forks and have had no problems. I have had my 2120 since 1987 and put it through some pretty rough work on a hilly rocky new england farm. The 2120 is still available and has a a heavier frame than the Boomers (and you will definately notice it). The TN has the NH Quick attach FEL and the 2120 has the ATI Quick Attach Adapter so that they can share various implements. It works out well. I had a 758 backhoe on the 2120 and it was good up to it's rated capacity. I traded it for a Woods 1050 for the TN. They are a world apart. The Woods 1050 is a HD backhoe can actually dig out an oak stump without spending the entire day.As far as lifting round bales. The 2120 or TN could do it. If the ground wasn't flat or firm I'd definately prefer the TN. I'm not so sure that I would want to do much of it with a 33 class tractor. I've tipped three machines in my life and they go over quick.If you have any other questions, I'll try to answer.BTW- My dealer who my family has done business with for over 40 years sells both Blue and Orange. I've tried Orange but I stick with Blue.Andy

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Your property description sounds just like mine. Is your TN 4wd? I just can't imagine being without it...

I think I am pretty solidly out of the mid frame compact, just not sure that I can go to the utility. I am not farming, so speed isn't EVERYTHING, but then, I may be doing more down the road...

 

[Phred]

Hi Mike,

If you are in eastern Ok then you have a very similar case as me.

I have 90 acres in NW AR. Very steep in places. Significant amounts of woods as well as open pasture.

What I did was rent a bunch of machines and try them out with a bushhog I owned. In this way I was able to try them on for size.

I found that with the kind of areas you are talking about (80 acers from your bio) i needed a significant tractor. IMHO the TN series is the right ticket. I have a TN70D that is a 4x4 with the 16x16 trany and 32LA quick attach.
This machine is oustanding and a pleasure to use. The loader is very powerfull. One day I used it to move a ~2800 lb sissor lift, on my fork attachment. The quick attach is worth every penny since it is identical to bobcat quick attach. This means you can go down to any rental yard and rent any of the 20+ bobcat attachments for a weekend and use them with your tractor. Also the buckets and fork attachments for the bobcat are much cheaper than for many tractors, such as the green ones.

Also I find I can get it in and out of just about any space I need to.
The 16x16 trany is nice since you have a very wide range of gear options for a given task.

Fred

 

[Kodiak]

Ok I constantly do the same work that you mentioned, with the exception of moving the 900lb round bales. However I do unload pallets of construction materials, including occasional pallets that weigh @ around 1000lbs.

And do to my need for tight maneauverability in and around residential construction and landscaping. My tractor of choice Was the TC29. Yes thats the midsize Class II Boomer. First off let me say that I went with the 29 for my preference to a gear tranny with a live PTO. Since you want/need a hydrostatic tranny, and the deluxe extendable 3pt arms I would suggest the TC33D. To acheive that extra FEL lift that you and I require I equipped mine with a Woods 1012 loader that is rated at @1200lbs, and I beleive that is a conservative rating this loader euipped with the 66" HD bucket and recently aquired Woods Quick attach and pallet forks greatly compliments the Class II Boomers. And besides it can be ordered from Woods in the stock New Holland blue paint. I would suggest getting the rear tires loaded for added weight.

And to make a complete package out of it I also equippeds the 29 with a Woods 7500 backhoe with both a 12" trenching bucket and an a 16" bucket. Oh yes the woods 7500 BH can also be ordered in the stock New Holland blue paint

I considered the Supersteer option, but then discounted it as the Class II Boomers already have a nice tight turning radius.

And the $1000 savings by not getting the SS option allowed me to purchase a new 6' First Choice RD finish mower. In addition I run an older 5' Woods brush hog with no problems.

In 240 hours since April I am quite pleased with this tractor pkg. And am currently considering picking up a second one next spring that will be dedicated to mowing and other 3pt usage.

 

[victor]

Currently have my TC25D at the dealer's getting a new 7308 FEL installed. He never mentioned the forthcoming 14LA. Does anyone know the specs and cost of the new loader? I'm wondering if I should have waited until the spring for this purchase.