Fel flattens tires

/ Fel flattens tires #1  

RosseauK

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I've been doing some loader work in a pit and when I get a good load in my bucket the front tires almost look like they are flat. I checked them with nothing in the bucket and they seemed to be ok. Could I be overfilling my bucket??
 
/ Fel flattens tires #2  
What does your manual say about the air pressure when using loader.

Does your valve relief go start screeching?

If your relief was set right, it would go off if overloaded.
 
/ Fel flattens tires #3  
Ive lifted alot of weight with my DK45 and i have seen the front tirees sag down some under a real heavy load. I agree with checking the air pressure. I keep tabs on mine all the time. Dont want to pop a tire off of a rim...especially under load.
 
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#4  
The manual says to keep them inflated to maximum tire inflation. As for the relief valve ive never had it go off yet.
 
/ Fel flattens tires #5  
If you are doing a lot of loader work, have your tires at max air pressure. If you have R4 industrial tires you will be set, if you have R1 AG tires then you could possibly be over loading the tires. AG tires that get used on the front typically do not have a high pound rating. I have seen on some tractors that if a person was to lift a maximum weight load with the loader, the AG tires would indeed be over loaded.

Hopefully your tires just need to be aired up.
 
/ Fel flattens tires #6  
The DK40 calls for 28lbs for ag tires and 45lbs for industrial tires. You can pick up 2500lbs with the loader. That's a good bit of weight. Advise what tires you have and somebody else with a 40 and the same tires can tell you what theirs does.
 
/ Fel flattens tires #7  
Your tires need more air.

Do you have someway to put air in your tires ?

Do you have a tire gauge ?
 
/ Fel flattens tires #8  
The manual says to keep them inflated to maximum tire inflation. As for the relief valve ive never had it go off yet.

Disregard this post. Correct data at Post #19

Maybe you are lifting more that the spec lift weight.

Plug in a hyd pressure gage, max out the cyl, and check the relief pressure. It should be about 50 to 100 lbs below the pumps max pressure.

Lifting weight = 1,074 lbs

Your loader relief valve should be set at 2000 psi

http://www.kioti.com/products/attachments/attachment_kl120.asp
 
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/ Fel flattens tires #9  
Maybe you are lifting more that the spec lift weight.

Plug in a hyd pressure gage, max out the cyl, and check the relief pressure. It should be about 50 to 100 lbs below the pumps max pressure.

Lifting weight = 1,074 lbs

Your loader relief valve should be set at 2000 psi

KIOTI - run ahead of the pack!

I thought that on a Kioti DK40 the lift capacity was around 2,700 lbs. What is this 1,074 lbs that you are talking about? :confused:
 
/ Fel flattens tires #10  
Do you have any ballast on the back? I have loaded rears but I noticed that having even my 350lb blade on the back helped with loader work. The specs and manual say you should have 1000lbs of ballast on the 3pt to work the loader to its limits. I find with a bucket full of gravel (1200-1500lbs?)my R1's do squish a bit but not enough to worry about them coming off the rim.
 
/ Fel flattens tires #11  
Filled tires do not add front lift capacity. Suspended weight in the rear cantilevers some of the weight off the front tires providing a little more load capacity. Note "a little more capacity" oftem people put the biggest loader available for their tractor when the next size down would be easier on the machine.

My opinion only
 
/ Fel flattens tires #12  
I thought that on a Kioti DK40 the lift capacity was around 2,700 lbs. What is this 1,074 lbs that you are talking about? :confused:

I have to assume he is talking about the KL351 loader (1,412lbs) and not the KL401 (2,761lbs) that I assume you have. All I guess on my part (maybe his as well?), because I didn't see what tractor you have until the quoted post above, just seen someone talk about the DK40.
 
/ Fel flattens tires #13  
I thought that on a Kioti DK40 the lift capacity was around 2,700 lbs. What is this 1,074 lbs that you are talking about? :confused:

I think he is using the KL120 figure. I recall 1074lbs is the lift capacity for a CK20.
 
/ Fel flattens tires #14  
I have to assume he is talking about the KL351 loader (1,412lbs) and not the KL401 (2,761lbs) that I assume you have. All I guess on my part (maybe his as well?), because I didn't see what tractor you have until the quoted post above, just seen someone talk about the DK40.

First of all, it is not me, I do not have a Kioti. The OP has a DK40se, or that is what is in his profile. So I am assuming that he has the 2761lb lift capacity.
Tractor Make & Model KiotiDK40se Type of Member Homeowner (100+ acres)
 
/ Fel flattens tires #15  
Filled tires do not add front lift capacity. Suspended weight in the rear cantilevers some of the weight off the front tires providing a little more load capacity. Note "a little more capacity" oftem people put the biggest loader available for their tractor when the next size down would be easier on the machine.

My opinion only
I think specifically, loaded rears do add some FEL lift capacity, but they don't reduce the load on the front axle like ballast hanging off the back does.
So loaded rears allow you lift more but also stress the front axle more while doing it;)
 
/ Fel flattens tires #16  
First of all, it is not me, I do not have a Kioti. The OP has a DK40se, or that is what is in his profile. So I am assuming that he has the 2761lb lift capacity.
Tractor Make & Model KiotiDK40se Type of Member Homeowner (100+ acres)


Yes sir, I understand that, I didn't see it in the OPs profile, my opps on what tractor he has (not noticing his profile)... But it looks like we all are on the same track now ;)
 
/ Fel flattens tires #17  
What we need is for the OP to come back and tell us that his tires were low on air and his problems are now gone. ;)
 
/ Fel flattens tires #18  
What we need is for the OP to come back and tell us that his tires were low on air and his problems are now gone. ;)

I think he filled his tires with Helium.. and will have to wait till they leak out some air and he comes back down to earth... i hate it when that happens:laughing:
 
/ Fel flattens tires #19  
MtnViewRanch; said:
I thought that on a Kioti DK40 the lift capacity was around 2,700 lbs. What is this 1,074 lbs that you are talking about? :confused:

I am confused also, my mistake, looked at the wrong loader.

Here are the KL401 loader specs.

Relief settings 2,556 psi

KIOTI - run ahead of the pack!
 
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Hey guys haven't went to my woodlot yet, so haven't checked the pressure. I'll take a pressure gauge and check. They are ag tires and I have a bb on my 3pt and the metal rear wheel weights on the back so counter balance is no issue. It stalls the tractor before it lifts the back up in most cases. If they do need air I was just going to drive it to my truck and use the 12v compressor. I do have the dk40 and it is rated at 2700#. A bucket full of gravel I was estimating at 700-900#. Not sure if a heaped bucket weighs much more. But it would be nice to know if someone has weighed a full bucket of gravel. Thanks for the advice. Also does anyone know how to post pics from their iPhone using the tractor by net app.
 

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