FDIC insurance limits only temporary

   / FDIC insurance limits only temporary #11  
FDIC insurance is there to protect the banks, not you. Lets say on the news you hear that MegaBank is having issues with some of their mortgages. Now really they've sold most of their mortgages to third parties so all that's really happening is that they're tightening up their new mortgage authorizations, but that's not good news so people think they're in trouble. People start panicking and pull out their savings to store under their highly flammable mattresses. Now MegaBank really does have issues, they've lost the capital they used to loan out to homeowners and farmers so they start getting into trouble. And thus the prophecy is fulfilled. With FDIC insurance people don't panic as much and they're more willing to leave their money in the bank and ride through questionable times.

Now, let's take a look at your real risk:

1. You're already over the limit, or at least you will be the first interest payment you get. Unless you really meant that you invested enough so that in 60 months you'll have $250,000.

2. There's a strong possibility that the FDIC insurance rates will be extended. The only reason not to is to get people with a lot of cash to invest in something that's higher growth.

3. If not, you've still got a large chunk of your investment covered so you won't be out everything.

4. The only time FDIC insurance comes into play is when a bank goes under. Even with the recent mortgage issues, how many banks have actually filed claims against the FDIC? Especially the big guys? So if the bank goes bust next year you're out your interest. If the bank goes bust sometime in the following four years you're out the interest and possibly $150,000 - unless they extend or even up the current limits.

You're in charge of your own risk. Most of the CD's I've dealt with simply make you give up xx months of interest as a penalty, I don't think closing immediately would cost me anything out of pocket but I've never changed my mind like that so maybe it would. Either way, the majority of your investment is protected for a year and change. If after a year you think the risk is too great, can you live with probably a 2-3% rate of return for the year or is it worth a few thousand of lost interest to gain some security? If the only risk is that the bank will go out of business in a year I wouldn't think twice about it, but then again if I didn't plan to touch the money for 5 years I'd probably dump it into today's depressed market and take my chances that I'd get better than 5%.
 
   / FDIC insurance limits only temporary #12  
The Government don't insure these funds to begin with .
The FDIC is a small private insurance co.
They only have enough assets to cover a very small percentage of these funds.
Seems to me it's only something like one half of one percent.
L . B .

FDIC = Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, a US government entity. The insurance limits are set by Congress. The insurance is backed by the full faith and credit of the US government. Oh well. :rolleyes:

And aren't you in Canada?
 
   / FDIC insurance limits only temporary #14  
With the small-potatoes CDs I've invested in you only lose the interest on any incomplete quarter with an early withdrawal. What I've done is split my money into as many smaller chunks as will still meet the minimum in case I need to cash one in early. However, it sounds like the OP may have a problem moving his money in such a way as to avoid a tax penalty, because it is a retirement account. That can get really interesting I would think.

BTW, I use a savings-and-loan for my banking. I know they have FSLIC instead of FDIC, and I think the limits are the same, but does anyone have knowledge about the relative stability of S&Ls vs banks? Perhaps the S&L meltdown several years ago "innoculated" them? I'm confident of mine....no subprimes there. They checked me very thoroughly when I got just a small equity loan for some needed repairs, and they told me my rating was excellent...they still checked me to the point of requiring tax records, pay stubs, etc. I found the pay stub thing amuusning since both my wife and I do direct deposit with them.

Chuck
 
   / FDIC insurance limits only temporary #15  
Washington Mutual just collapsed a few days ago. It was the largest thrift (savings and loan) in the country. The Office of Thrift Supervision has been heavily politicized by the current administration and weren't doing their job. I know you are shocked.

The FDIC was named as receiver, and WaMu was sold to JP Morgan. No depositors lost any money. We also got lucky. The FDIC did not have to spend any of our money, either.
 
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   / FDIC insurance limits only temporary #16  
I have never invested in a CD that did not offer at least one penalty free withdrawl a year.

Why did you not stagger or ladder them?

Interest rates aren't the only reason to invest in CD's.
 
   / FDIC insurance limits only temporary
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I have never invested in a CD that did not offer at least one penalty free withdrawl a year.

Why did you not stagger or ladder them?

Interest rates aren't the only reason to invest in CD's.

I have had CDs for over 35 years and I have never heard of one that would allow you to withdraw your money penalty free before the maturation date except in rare cases such as death of CD owner.

Terms could not be staggered because only 5 year CDs were paying 5 1/2% and this offer was only good for 5 days.

Interest rates are my only reason to put money in CDs.

My penalty for early withdrawal is $25 plus 3% of the withdrawal amount. This is the most I can lose if I decide to withdraw the money at the end of the year for investment elsewhere. This is about $4500. But, as others have stated, I have a year to decide what to do and by then they may extend the $250,000 insurance for a longer period so that I may not have to do anything. I have talked to one of their many vice-presidents and he let me know that they must follow the regulations and that there is no concession that they can make for me. He gave me the impression that if I don't have at least $10,000,000 in the bank that they don't even have the time to talk to me.

The main purpose of this thread was to inform other readers of this TEMPORARY FDIC insurance so that they would not do as I did.
 
   / FDIC insurance limits only temporary #18  
IRA's carry $250,000 in FDIC insurance. So don't sweat it. You should be happy you've done well in the last 30 years investing on your own. As an investment professional I can tell you that very few people act rationally during times like these, and many make the worst (read: emotional) decisions during Bear markets. I'm optimistic about American ingenuity and am convinced that these tough times won't last forever. My big concern for the next few years is INFLATION, we're pumping lots of money into the economy to get things going again..YIkes:eek:
 
   / FDIC insurance limits only temporary #19  
tallyho, thanks for the info. 5 1/2% is a great rate! the best I have found around here for awhile is 4.25% for a two year CD and you can add to it one time and raise the rate one time, lets hope the rates go up a bit. MH
 

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