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   / Favorite Color or Dependable Dealer #31  
I gotta agree with Gerard on this one. If resale is a huge concern for you (i.e. that is perhaps the tiebreaker in your decision process), maybe you don't need to shell out that much money just to pay for a name after all.

I love the name-brand chest-thumping that is going on and is quite the clever way to essentially bash all other brands without actually coming out and doing it. If the guys that paid the extra money to get their "tried and true" unit need to try to run down the competition to try to justify why they more or less wasted their money to get and equal or inferior tractor to the alleged 2nd tier manufacturers, then that is their business. I had commented about the lack of difference in all of the tractor manufacturers at a recent ag show I went to - there really isn't much difference between the alleged Big 3 and the Korean/Indian tractors - in my humble opinion.

The reference to Ebay as far as the sale of used tractors, particularly non-name brand, is a little stilted. I haven't seen very many Big 3 tractors sell on Ebay, so to use that as a resale example really isn't that solid. I've asked before, and yet to get a response, where exactly are these used 2nd tier tractors (Long, Kioti, Mahindra, Montana, etc) being sold for pennies on the dollar and the owners taking a pounding on resale? I see very few in the local trader papers, Fastline, etc. Heck, I might get me another of these inferior tractors since I'll be able to pick it up for a song.

And as far as dealerships go, in my immediate area, we have had a Kubota and New Holland dealership close, and a John Deere dealership is on it's way to closing by mid-year. The New Holland dealership was only recently picked up by Little Tractor (but he's one of those guys who sells Kiotis, so I probably wouldn't want to get a NH from him - it's probably got Kioti Kooties). There has also been another Kioti dealer open; a Montana dealer open; and the Mahindra dealership has grown quite a bit (the JD dealership keeps about 6 new tractors on his lot; the Kioti and Mahindra dealers keep about 20 or 30 new tractors.

If you feel like you gotta spend the bucks, that's cool...hey man, that's what America is all about. And if you want to trumpet your opinion about the alleged superiority of the Big 3 versus all other comers, that's great too....just don't expect everybody to agree.
 
   / Favorite Color or Dependable Dealer #32  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I SAY, "If you have to THINK about resale (if something comes up /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif), then you can't afford it". Gerard )</font>

I think that you are wrong. I definitely consider resale, and I always pay cash for my tractors. Theory seems flawed. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
   / Favorite Color or Dependable Dealer #33  
I guess I don't consider resale too much. I get what like. In the case of my tractor I am sure I will have it a long time. And if some day I have the money I am sure I will take it in and trade on a product my dealer has. He is New Holland right now and has been for a long time, but if he has something different down the road I will buy that. It still is dealer for me.

murph
 
   / Favorite Color or Dependable Dealer #34  
Bob:

When we dabble in Real Estate, yes we do it for profit, that's why we do it. BUT, I didn't buy my KIOTI or cars for that reason. This example is apples to oranges.

When my family goes to buy Cars, Boats, Tow vehicles, Motor homes, Tractors, The house that we're going to live in, etc., it's because we LIKE what it is and that's why we are buying it.

I bought my KIOTI because at $65.00 per hour, and at ten hour days plus material(s), it was costing me (on average) $1,000 a day for work that I could do myself (but on their schedule). Now, multiply that by 14 days (on and off) and what do you have? MY KIOTI!!!! It works just like any other COLOR would, but I know, KIOTI doesn't have the resale value /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif (yet) /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

Now, when my work with the tractor is finished (lol) and if I decide to sell it, I'll take what I can get for it and feel good knowing I SAVED THOUSANDS, probably tens of. Hope this sounds a little more reasonable to you. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Gerard
 
   / Favorite Color or Dependable Dealer #35  
Couldn't have said it better myself /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif. Gerard
 
   / Favorite Color or Dependable Dealer #36  
Dargo:

My reply to you is, "Read the last 6 words that rtimgray wrote". /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Gerard
 
   / Favorite Color or Dependable Dealer #37  
<font color="blue"> The arguement can also be made for tractors. </font>
Tractors, as well as cars, are an expense, not an investment.
 
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#38  
GerardC

If you don't care about the resale value of your tractor then I would assume that it did not matter to you how much you paid for it. Did you just walk into the dealer and say,

"I'll take that one."

azzxx

JD 5520 Cab MWFD, JD 2040 & MF 265
 
   / Favorite Color or Dependable Dealer #39  
"If you don't care about the resale value of your tractor then I would assume that it did not matter to you how much you paid for it."

Now, you know what they say about assuming, right?

Not that I presume to know Gerard's mind, but I know in my case, it was quite to the contrary of your comment. Resale value is merely an item to check off a list...in my case, it was at the bottom of the list...maybe so far on the bottom, it fell off.

Price played a key role in my selection of a tractor. The Kioti I bought was thousands less than Kubota, and John Deere was thousands more than the Kubota. Couldn't go to the local New Holland dealer - it was out of business. As far as selecting a Kioti, it was kind of "I came for the low price, but stayed for the quality and features"
 
   / Favorite Color or Dependable Dealer #40  
<font color="blue">If you don't care about the resale value of your tractor then I would assume that it did not matter to you how much you paid for it. </font>
Enlighten me why not caring about resale value implies not caring about purchase price.
 

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