Fatal Log Skidder Accident - Oregon

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County worker died using a faulty logging skidder owned by his supervisor's son
Oregonian|46 minutes ago
CORVALLIS (AP) A Benton County road worker who died on the job was operating a poorly maintained piece of leased logging equipment that was owned by his supervisor's son, according to findings from two investigations. Pete Neuman, 59, was using a John Deere skidder to move logs at the site of a road-building project in the Hells Canyon ...

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Wow, a sad story.
 
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I'm guessing the lawyers will be busy .....

"An internal review by the county and an investigation by the Benton County Sheriff’s Office found that there were numerous safety issues with the skidder, including frequent stalling, brake failures, bald rear tires and a jury-rigged seat belt.

Investigators also determined that Jim Stouder, the longtime head of the county road department, had approved a rental agreement for the skidder that paid his son, Charlie Stouder, more than $7,000."
"The skidder was obtained through Jackson Luck Enterprises, a Corvallis excavation company that has a yearly materials and services contract with the county.

But Jackson Luck didn’t own the skidder. Charlie Stouder did.

In his own interviews with investigators, records show, Jim Stouder explained that skidders can be hard to find and aren’t readily available to rent. When it came time to line up equipment for the Starr Creek-Hells Canyon job, he set up a three-way deal involving the county, Jackson Luck and his son.

“(Jim) Stouder said he knew Charlie Stouder had a skidder,” a sheriff’s deputy wrote in his report, “so he got Charlie Stouder and Jackson Luck in contact with each other.”"
It gets better as you read further:

Death at Hells Canyon | Local | gazettetimes.com
 
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Will the county taxpayers be the ones that ultimately pay for these sweet deals?
 
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The skidder was rented from the individual through a third party rental company, so I suspect if an insurance claim is filed it will encompass the owner of the skidder, his father supervising the project, the company which acted as a conduit to the rental and the town.
 
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The 3rd party (that had a contract with the jurisdiction) acted as a rental agent yet never laid eyes on the piece of equipment THEY were renting out. Their own insurance is going to have to pay up (and better settle early).
 
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Sad situation indeed. Probably an experienced enough operator and a manager looking to make a buck for his family. It is sometimes hard to find just the right piece of equipment at the rental yard but that does not excuse using sub-standard and unsafe equipment. I would expect a lot of explaining to be done by every person connected with that tragic event. If it were to make it to court I would think there will be plenty of fault assessed to every party involved.
 
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I have seen the situation often. You jump in the truck and the BOSS says, BTW, the brakes don't work and you have to stall it to shut it off. So you run what's available and don't ask questions. Otherwise, you won't fit in AND won't have work..
 
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I have seen the situation often. You jump in the truck and the BOSS says, BTW, the brakes don't work and you have to stall it to shut it off. So you run what's available and don't ask questions. Otherwise, you won't fit in AND won't have work..

I'm sure the family will understand your explanation of how it all works. :thumbdown:
 
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Yeah, I know, the TRUTH often sucks. Not completely MY fault things are the way they are.
 
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Sad to hear... my condolence to family and friends.

Really makes me appreciate my employer, they are quite the opposite, going to great (even excessive) lengths to focus on the safety of all of us employed there. Naturally, some people complain about it, but we are far more likely to go home alive than poor Pete Neuman, I wish they could understand that.
 
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Sounds like the whole brush and log removal part of the job should have been contracted out. How many roads do they actually build in that town anymore? Prob not many.
 
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the operator ignored the fact that the seat belt wouldn't fit him, so he went and used the machine anyway!. operator fatal error!.
 
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Not completely MY fault things are the way they are.

Maybe time for a different field of employment. I have never been asked (let alone told) to do something unsafe by any employer.
Not to say I haven't "pushed it" a couple times, but in every case it was my own perogative.
 
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Maybe time for a different field of employment. I have never been asked (let alone told) to do something unsafe by any employer.
Not to say I haven't "pushed it" a couple times, but in every case it was my own perogative.

Boy I have. Working around airplanes, and at a newspaper printing facility. When the boss says "Get in there and do it." my usual reply was "You show me how to do it first." If it still looked unsafe, my 2nd reply was "Nope." Never got fired or disciplined for refusing to do something unsafe, so at least they didn't push it.
 
 
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