FarmTrac Troubles

/ FarmTrac Troubles #921  
Who owns textron stock?? Taxpayer if the 23% number is correct then either China or India must own textron or maybe Korea now the true picture is coming into focus.When you loan money to yourself it does not matter which pocket it comes out of or which pocket it goes into. Guess we need to start checking pockets and see who's pocket our government leaders are in. You can bet it is the one with the money in it.(India buys textron stock,Textron uses the money to floorplan India company products, American's buy India products at full value and get stuck with the bill,WHERE's THE MONEY NOT IN THE AMERICAN'S POCKET) Just pay textron with India products. Idea those nice blue yard ornamets that are made in India and Korea>
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #922  
BlueLiner a friend e-mailed me that American company's have been doing what Farm Trac USA (Escorts India) is doing many times to other "countries" since the early 50's. they claim that several farm equipment manufactures did the same thing in Bazil each time that Bazil had run away inflation. DID THEY HAVE RUN AWAY INFLATION OR DID AMERCIA JUST TAKE ALL THEIR MONEY WHEN THE DOLLAR WAS STRONG!!!! Sounds like the shoe is on the other foot and that is why government officials are so quite about this situation. Can you check on this history and see if this is so. Those with the gold make the rules---- Looks like someone other that the USA is making the rules since they have all the GOLD!!!! Help America ride a American made bike pedaled by american horsepower. Yourself!!!!! Hope your retirement funds or not invested in textron or the oil companies because we will find a better way I guar--on---tee.
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #924  
I ran across an interesting article in the fort worth star-telegram.it states that last wednsday, American Ironhorse motorcycle co. was sold at bankruptcy auction. it said there was approx 1300 bikes , 180 held by american ironhorse, 250 repos held by textron and about 800 held by dealers. many of you will remember that this was the company listed on the LewPack site at the same time as was the 900 farmtracs in tarboro.the american ironhorse dealers were caught in an almost identical situation as farmtrac dealers. it would be interesting to know how textron has dealt with these dealers and if perhaps they might have a forum we could compare notes on.any thoughts on this?-----Taxpayer
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #925  
taxpayer said:
I ran across an interesting article in the fort worth star-telegram.it states that last wednsday, American Ironhorse motorcycle co. was sold at bankruptcy auction. it said there was approx 1300 bikes , 180 held by american ironhorse, 250 repos held by textron and about 800 held by dealers. many of you will remember that this was the company listed on the LewPack site at the same time as was the 900 farmtracs in tarboro.the american ironhorse dealers were caught in an almost identical situation as farmtrac dealers. it would be interesting to know how textron has dealt with these dealers and if perhaps they might have a forum we could compare notes on.any thoughts on this?-----Taxpayer

I just got off the phone with an American Iron Horse Dealer. He stated that the motorcycle co filed Chapter 13. They do now have a new owner. They did go through some of the same things we did. Textron gave them a warranty through an outside source. They did not have the parts problems because their company bought components and the dealers were able to source them directly. They did repo alot of bikes. These were from dealers that he thought did not pay. This dealer did pay his floor plan interest, he only had two bikes. I think we need to call a dealer that had bikes picked up to get more info. He was not that upset at textron. Altough when I told him more about our situation he was very curious and stated his opinion about all floor plan companies.

Case
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #926  
Well now that Textron has resolved the motorcycle problem, they will have more free time to work on the Farmtrac dealers! Yikes!
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #927  
case1570 said:
I just got off the phone with an American Iron Horse Dealer. He stated that the motorcycle co filed Chapter 13. They do now have a new owner. They did go through some of the same things we did. Textron gave them a warranty through an outside source. They did not have the parts problems because their company bought components and the dealers were able to source them directly. They did repo alot of bikes. These were from dealers that he thought did not pay. This dealer did pay his floor plan interest, he only had two bikes. I think we need to call a dealer that had bikes picked up to get more info. He was not that upset at textron. Altough when I told him more about our situation he was very curious and stated his opinion about all floor plan companies.

Case
Good job Case, thanks----------------taxpayer
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #928  
for all you guys out there i was looking for a back glass for my farmtrac 8075dt and got some response from polland. He said they had the glass and give me a price. We are now setting a pre-payment plan so he can get his money.
they have been really helpful by getting me shipping cost and all. He is also going to ship it directly to my front door. So if your needing parts, and all else fails just e-mail to farmtrac@farmtrac.com.pl they will answer or they answered mine at least. Hope it helps some of you!!!!
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #929  
This article was published today in the Daily Southener newspaper out of Tarboro, NC.....

ECMC buys bulk barn operation
W. TERRY SMITH
EDITOR


Mon, Jun 09 2008

Two Edgecombe County farmers have purchased the bulk barn manufacturing operations of Farmtrac.
The new company is known as Eastern Carolina Manufacturing Co. (ECMC) and will create at least 50 new jobs and make at least a $2 million investment over the next two to four years, said Chief Executive Officer Robert H. Bob Pope Sr.
Pope, 56, of Rocky Mount and Richard C. Anderson, 47, of Leggett are ECMC owners.
In February, Farmtrac was forced into court-ordered receivership that included authorization to liquidate its assets.
Terms of the sale of the 121,740 square foot manufacturing facility on a 10.5-acre site on Hope Lodge Street were not disclosed. The building had been vacant for years.
ECMC´ purchase included the property and all the equipment, fixtures, priority tools, specifications, plans, engineering drawings and trademark used by Farmtrac to make and sell tobacco barns.
Farmtrac was successor to Long Manufacturing Co., which was the original manufacturer of Long bulk tobacco curing barns.
ECMC has two subsidiaries: Long Tobacco Barn Co. and Pope Manufacturing Co., which plans to develop barns that utilize solar energy.
The company has started production of bulk barns for the upcoming tobacco-harvesting season and is presently employing 28 people, Pope said. Some of these workers are former Farmtrac employees.
Carolinas Gateway Partnership has been helping put the deal together for the last two months.
We are so pleased that local people are re-investing in the community, Partnership Vice President Oppie Jordan said.
The Partnership contributed a $25,000 incentives grant.
In March, the Town of Tarboro applied to the Rural Center for a $250,000 building and reuse grant, based on $10,000 per employee.
This is good news and another shot in the arm for us, said Tarboro Mayor Donald Morris. I hope they have much success.
The creation of these new jobs and new investment is great news for our community, said Charlie Harrell, chairman of the Edgecombe County Board of Commissioners. Edgecombe County welcomes this good news.
Carolina Gateway Partnership Chairman Frank Harrison said, å…¸his is a great example of local investors seeing the potential and taking advantage of the excellent local business climate. This is good news for the two-county area.
The Partnership is a coalition of more than 200 public and private sector investors from Nash and Edgecombe counties, the City of Rocky Mount, the Town of Tarboro and the Town of Nashville.
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #930  
the sale was for $650,000.00, it is in the court record of the LS cable suit. with the amount of grants they got, someone got a heck of a deal. I wonder who the investors are?this is really old news, makes me wonder why it has been kept from the public and why southerner editor Terry Smith is just now getting around to printing it.with the exception of Bob Benedetti and his efforts to uncover the truth. not much else has come from tarboro that has done the dealers a nickels worth of good. a good federal investigation of the whole blasted place is whats really needed.------------taxpayer
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #932  
redneckford said:
Which POCKET!!!!!!!
RNFord,

Per usual, you're a classic!

An intelligent friend theorized that the implosion of the new small tractor market was part of the natural market forces at work -- a responding to an excess of companies and overproduction combined with hideous economic state.

Isn't this similar to what happens when the bottom falls out of a company's stock? In this case, each "share" is worth thousands of dollars -- a honkingly large pill for common folk running a small tractor business to swallow.

Then... add the illicit forces you've touched on and... it's a really bad gig.

--b
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #933  
taxpayer said:
Longtrman, it would take far too long to give a thorough explaination on this forum.However I was refering to what is known as the bretton woods conference held in 1944 at a hotel located in a new england state. this once closed and abandoned hotel was remodeled and refitted especially for this meeting at a cost of several million post war dollars.the meeting was attended by financial representives of approx. 140 countries, it was considered at the time to be absolutely top secret.it was here that our government decided it would abandon the pure gold standard, which dictated that there must be one dollar in gold for every one dollar note printed.it opted for a system in which paper money itself became the standard.it enabled governments, primarily the USA, who became indebted to simply print more money, the value of each country's currency on the world market was tied directley to the amount of inports and exports each country was allowed.in short, in order to devalue the dollar and gain more exports for its country, many countries ,mainly china, india and middle eastern nations. began buying united states federal reserve notes.the american financial institutions hold only about 23% of these notes, with the rest in the hands of other countries. our elected officials, having allowed the USA to become hostage to these countrys, will do nothing to protect american interests against the very thing the farmtrac dealers are experencing .However as maddening as it is, we must not lose focus.anger towards Escorts LTD will not solve the imediate problem. we must deal with the textron problem first, if we are to survive in this industry.-----------taxpayer

Actually, taxpayer, there was still a sort of gold standard. All foreign nations signing bretton woods were to peg the value of their currency to the U.S. dollar which was fixed at $35.00 per oz of gold. In effect we guaranteed all the other currencies. Americans couldn't change dollars for gold but foreign nations could and by the John Kennedy presidency the gold drain from the U.S. was accelerating. Kennedy did some things to stop this and a week later Johnson became president and the changes were undone(I don't remember where I read that, sorry). Johnson had trouble with the Bretton Woods economy also. Then Nixon had trouble with it. He and John Connely did things contrary to Bretton Woods and Gerald Ford became president. The Nixon troubles with Bretton Woods is known as "The Nixon Shock". Neither Bretton Woods, Bretton Woods II or Smithsonian has worked but our government still tries to use it. Bretton Woods as I understand required the U.S. to put the U.S. ecomomy in a recession mode if it worked better for stabilizing world currency. Can you spell "Bernanky". As you said none of this has any relief to our problems with Farmtrac. Myself I think what we need is not Free Trade, as mandated by Bretton Woods, but Fair Trade.
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #934  
longtrman said:
Actually, taxpayer, there was still a sort of gold standard. All foreign nations signing bretton woods were to peg the value of their currency to the U.S. dollar which was fixed at $35.00 per oz of gold. In effect we guaranteed all the other currencies. Americans couldn't change dollars for gold but foreign nations could and by the John Kennedy presidency the gold drain from the U.S. was accelerating. Kennedy did some things to stop this and a week later Johnson became president and the changes were undone(I don't remember where I read that, sorry). Johnson had trouble with the Bretton Woods economy also. Then Nixon had trouble with it. He and John Connely did things contrary to Bretton Woods and Gerald Ford became president. The Nixon troubles with Bretton Woods is known as "The Nixon Shock". Neither Bretton Woods, Bretton Woods II or Smithsonian has worked but our government still tries to use it. Bretton Woods as I understand required the U.S. to put the U.S. ecomomy in a recession mode if it worked better for stabilizing world currency. Can you spell "Bernanky". As you said none of this has any relief to our problems with Farmtrac. Myself I think what we need is not Free Trade, as mandated by Bretton Woods, but Fair Trade.
Longtrman, I'm afraid fair trade is not something we are likely to ever see again.the US market is now flooded with import tractors and related products and the prices are spiraling downward rapidly,we are likely to see that trend esculate as the farmtrac tractors are dumped on the american market for pennies on the dollar.the public is lured into buying these tractors at what they believe is a cheap price,only to find they have to pay twice, once when they make the purchase and again when they must pay higher taxes to the US government,in order for the government to repay loans borrowed from other countries for the countless giveaway programs in exsistance here and abroad. our government must allow these cheap imports into this country in order to get loans from other countries. So who is the smartest in business?is it the americans who buy cheap? or is it the people who sell it to us?something to ponder.-------Taxpayer:confused: :rolleyes:
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #935  
To all "NOT-EVEN-ZERO" Farmtrac customers: Please visit this website

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

and file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. Please give details as to the amount you are supposed to get each quarter, amount financed, etc. There is a form that takes roughly 5 minutes to complete.

I have received a letter from a local senator that an official inquiry will be started looking into the wrong doings of Farmtrac North America. Your help is needed in this matter immediately. Remember that Farmtrac North America may not currently be in business right now, but they are a privately owned company with individuals that are still very much part of the United States market place.

This is your way to stop these practices from happening to people in the future and have our own problem resolved.

Thank you!
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #936  
Man!! Redneckford,do you think someone needs to give a eulogy and maybe a marker for this thread? I've seen more action in a old folks home than whats been on here lately. got anybody in mind we can make mad?? anything to get a little chatter.--------Taxpayer
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #938  
SESS said:
Here is the latest article in the Daily Southener:

The Daily Southerner, Tarboro, NC - PLOWED UNDER

Thanks to Bob!
Thanks for posting this article SESS,can't wait to see the next two.it's about time the world knew the truth about what has been done to the dealers and customers. I hope everybody gets madder than **** and contacts every senator and representive they know and demand an investigation into who is to blame for this fraud.------Taxpayer
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #939  
Blueliner, my hat is off to you,it took courage and dedication to write this story in light of the many obstacles you had to overcome,thank you for believing in us and giving us a voice.we are forever indebted to you for your help. Great Job! -----Taxpayer
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #940  
All a man/woman really needs is a warm/cool dry place to sleep and something to eat. Lets hope that those in power need our help getting something to eat. Money will not matter but knowledge will. Those with the gold (Food) will make the rules and Smith and Wesson will protect the fields!!!! That took courage Blueliner good job!!!! Can't wait for the rest of the story!!!!! Wonder how much food they learned to grow on the golf course.It is sad to say that Textron,a Great American Company, that has help alot of small business to compete with large stock market companies is put in a position where they must choose between helping american citizens or recouping their money from foreign companies. Free Trade yea! Right!!! We are going to wake up a hungry nation if we depend on someone else to feed us. Those with a patch of ground and a little bit of know how can grow their own food. I wonder what all those folks are going to do in those concrete valleys. One million dollars or something to eat which would you rather have. Everything becomes relavant. Reckcon they can drive up to Micky Dee's and get a hamburger. Not if they are depending on India for their beef!!! MAD YES!!!! QUITE N---------0--------0--!!!!!! Anybody got some greens and cornbeard for supper, I'm on my way!!!!
 

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