FarmTrac Troubles

redneckford · May 9, 2008

Hey got another idea. Why don't everyone go buy 100 chickens 100 hogs a jacobson lawnmower and a Farmtrac Tractor&Fel at full list plus 10% and everyone will be happy. That's 350000 chickens 350000 hogs 3500 jacobson/textron lawnmowers and 3500 darn happy Farmtrac dealers. just a thought???? n -----o--------t h---a----p----e----n----i----n----g in this country because we what to talk about helping a friend in need until action is needed.
Darn that would make a good breakfast!!!!!!

Shannon · May 9, 2008

I am a Farmtrac dealer with 42 tractors left on the lot. My question is to the other Farmtrac dealers out there. Are you guys selling the tractors? I keep reading and hearing other dealers who are not selling them. We have sold about 8 tractors and 9 loaders at a discounted price of coarse. I figure I gotta get 'em gone somehow.
Right now my "Farmtrac Troubles" consist of I'm out of ESL14599 Fuel filter kits ... I've been told a Mahindra filter is close enough to the same thing to work. Has anyone tried it? Just would like to know before I order a bunch form my Mahindra dealer.
Thanks

taxpayer · May 9, 2008

I just recieved a bill from textron in the mail,demanding full payment or curtailment payments on tractors put on my yard by farmtrac on unlimited terms.it seems to confirm that textron does not intend to give the dealers time to sell these tractors under the new warranty plan, before moving legally against the dealers. I feel the warranties provided by textron through one of thier insurance companys, was simply another market stratagey to position them to be able to say they wanted to help dealer but,now since the dealers can't or won't pay, then they have no choice but to foreclose.I disagree,farmtrac is still a legal company,and as long as they remain a legal company, the unlimited term agreement between farmtrac and the dealer should remain in effect. until I recieve a notice from farmtrac stating that the unlimited term agreement has been canceled, I will not and in fact cannot pay until I sell each tractor. why should I not be upset about this agreement being considered null and void by a third party,with anyone ever consulting me and giving me an opportunity to return back to the status I was before the agreement was put into effect?-------Taxpayer

taxpayer · May 9, 2008

Shannon said:
I am a Farmtrac dealer with 42 tractors left on the lot. My question is to the other Farmtrac dealers out there. Are you guys selling the tractors? I keep reading and hearing other dealers who are not selling them. We have sold about 8 tractors and 9 loaders at a discounted price of coarse. I figure I gotta get 'em gone somehow.
Right now my "Farmtrac Troubles" consist of I'm out of ESL14599 Fuel filter kits ... I've been told a Mahindra filter is close enough to the same thing to work. Has anyone tried it? Just would like to know before I order a bunch form my Mahindra dealer.
Thanks

Shannon,we have used the mahindra filter and it does work fine, also have used baldwin pf834 in a pinch, not exact but will work. good luck.------Taxpayer

tommybr · May 10, 2008

What good is the warranty unless Textron can provide the parts to perform the warrany....esepecially on the Escorts "Indian" tractor.

SESS · May 10, 2008

...and we still don't have any financing. I have checked with 3 different local finance companies that we have used in the past and still no go! They feel it is too big a liability because they feel like it is a child without a mom and dad! And the lack of a firm committment with parts. I guess we can just hope that someone comes in for a cash sale-OH yeah and the discounts. Same price as last year, but a tarnished name! Some "lookers" have told me they will hold off for the deep discounts. What do you say to that?!

hurliman · May 10, 2008

I just got a fax that says that a man named Kurt Schenck has been appointed as the account executive over Farmtracs floorplan finance portfolio. I wonder where they put Bill Scott. He is probably somewhere he can't be served with a subpoena by a court!

Brentwood Power Equipment · May 10, 2008

hurliman said:
I just got a fax that says that a man named Kurt Schenck has been appointed as the account executive over Farmtracs floorplan finance portfolio. I wonder where they put Bill Scott. He is probably somewhere he can't be served with a subpoena by a court!

Didn't Kurt work for Long????????Maybe reading all these posts wore ole Bill out!

blueliner · May 10, 2008

Mr. Brentwood Power,

A steel trap mind about C.W. "Kurt" Schenck!

Here *was* your link to support the statement:
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Finding+A+Niche+In+Imported+Tractors-a055850000

Guess what? Their website juuuuuust happened to go down within moments of me hitting it. If I wasn't a conspiracy theorist before...

Here's a link to the trusty hardcopy I made of the Schenck article:
http://www.bob44.com/pdfs/LongAgri_Schenck.pdf

Grrrrrrr!

***
Far as Mr. B.S.: There are a few possible explanations. My last dollar would be bet that it's a strategic move by TF... and/or Mr. B.S.

Think of it: With the way the dynamic has shaped up to effectively snag the dealers (and subsequently the external customers) from every angle, what's the chance those moves have made by "aw shucks" dumb luck or a co-winky-dink?

No way. Not buying it -- not for a second.
IMHO, this is another choreographed move.

Just one guy's hunch.

--blueliner

blueliner · May 10, 2008

Hello, all!

In all fairness...
Looks like the original link came back up an hour later! (Server issues?)
Finding A Niche In Imported Tractors

--blueliner

taxpayer · May 11, 2008

blueliner said:
Mr. Brentwood Power,

A steel trap mind about C.W. "Kurt" Schenck!

Here *was* your link to support the statement:
Finding A Niche In Imported Tractors. - Free Online Library

Guess what? Their website juuuuuust happened to go down within moments of me hitting it. If I wasn't a conspiracy theorist before...

Here's a link to the trusty hardcopy I made of the Schenck article:
http://www.bob44.com/pdfs/LongAgri_Schenck.pdf

Grrrrrrr!

***
Far as Mr. B.S.: There are a few possible explanations. My last dollar would be bet that it's a strategic move by TF... and/or Mr. B.S.

Think of it: With the way the dynamic has shaped up to effectively snag the dealers (and subsequently the external customers) from every angle, what's the chance those moves have made by "aw shucks" dumb luck or a co-winky-dink?

No way. Not buying it -- not for a second.
IMHO, this is another choreographed move.

Just one guy's hunch.

--blueliner

Excellent blueliner, I also checked this site yesterday and it was unavailable. good reading.I noted a couple things interesting in the article,one was Tony Alverez becoming CEO, most dealers have not been aware he actually was in the employ of the firm of Alverez & Marcell while acting as CEO,his actions, while CEO of longagribusiness set inmotion,the events which led to the situations we now face.I also found Bill campbell's statement"with us, the dealer takes no chance" amusing REALLY!. anyway, goood work blueliner,Robert Orr would proud of you. heh,heh-------Taxpayer

tommybr · May 12, 2008

More of the history that brought us to the current sorry mess can be found at thehindubusinessline.com.... Thursday, Oct. 3rd, 2002 article which describes how Escorts bought out the partnership with Alverez and Marcell.

tommybr · May 12, 2008

to find the story, google alverez and marcell......it is the first article that pops up.

tommybr · May 12, 2008

The Hindu Business Line : Escorts plans to buy out US partner
The Hindu Business Line : Escorts to buy out US subsidiary

Interesting reading

blueliner · May 12, 2008

TommyBr,

Fine work and informative stuff! Just read them and made hard copies.

--blueliner

Shannon · May 12, 2008

Kurt Schenck used to work for Long. He was hired by Textron because he was familiar with the line of tractors and the dealers. It was supposed to make a smoother transition to have someone in the Textron office that was familiar with procedures from Long. I don't think he has worked for Long/Farmtrac since 2001.

SESS · May 12, 2008

Seems in reading this article Newsroom: Featured Stories
That Kurt is a supporter of Montana. Maybe he will have that same enthusiasm with Farmtrac and turn us around! Whatcha think?

blueliner · May 12, 2008

SESS,

Hmmm... Wonder how presently handling financing for Montana and formerly being part of FT play in? More specifically, if there's anything more than simply being a fellow with tractor-industry selling experience?

--blueliner

blueliner · May 12, 2008

Shannon said:
Kurt Schenck used to work for Long. He was hired by Textron because he was familiar with the line of tractors and the dealers. It was supposed to make a smoother transition to have someone in the Textron office that was familiar with procedures from Long. I don't think he has worked for Long/Farmtrac since 2001.

Good stuff, Shannon.

--blueliner

Shannon · May 12, 2008

Blueliner,
I've been in selling these Long/Farmtrac tractors 12 plus years so I was here when Kurt worked for Long. I can't remember his "official" title. I do remember when Long would call the dealers for customer service surveys (when someone used to care), it would be K.S. that would call.