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Stated before and will again that there will NEVER be an EV in this driveway for a number of reasons but..

2 weeks ago I went deer hunting in the northern lower of Michigan at our owned hunting property near Big Rapids, not only myself, but my cousin from Illinois who happens to own more than one Tesla, including a Cyber Truck.

We booked rooms at the local Hampton Inn which just happens to be across the road from a 'Supercharging' facility (coincidence maybe?).

Anyway we took the Cyber Truck out to the property numerous times with either myself or my cousin driving and I was quite impressed with the Cyber Truck's off road capability in as much as the only access to the ground is via seasonal (unmaintained) road and it was covered with a pretty deep layer of snow (it snows up there almost daily and snowed the entire time we were there).

My observations were, the Cyber Truck negotiated the seasonal, unplowed road very well with no wheel spin and the truck tells you to put it in 'off road' mode when it senses you have left the pavement. Off Road mode raises the entire body up 7" for ground clearance (and I presume to mitigate any damage to the battery) and changes how the motors react as well. The Cyber Truck he has came with large aggressive tires on nice looking alloy rims (he has what is called the 'Foundation Edition).

The interior has a lot of room inside, plenty of legroom and the front bucket seats are comfortable plus, it has a full size backseat as well as a spacious bed that is completely covered by an electric sliding hard tonneau cover. It's an impressive but stone ugly vehicle least in my view. I do like the instant heat versus an ICE where you have to wait for the motor to heat up to have interior heat. I don't like the severely sloped windshield and even my cousin said it was a royal PITA to clean. I also don't like the shape of the steering wheel, it's mildly rectangular and to me feels clumsy, but then I don't own it, I just drove it for a limited time.

Typical holds you back in the seat Tesla pickup on dry pavement and the vehicle automatically limits that on wet or snowy roads.

I see Musk addressed the cold ambient charging temperature issues as well. The battery either automatically 'conditions' itself prior to initiating a charge or if you just plug it into the Supercharge station, the battery conditions itself depending on ambient temp for between 5 and 15 minutes before it will accept a charge and it charges much quicker than his other Tesla's do (he told me that, I didn't observe it personally).

I have to presume that the battery has some sort of external cooling (heating) fluid circulating around it during the 'conditioning' sequence and probably has a heating element of sorts in that fluid to warm the battery. Whatever it has, it works peachy as it was well below freezing the entire time we were up there, actually, the high was 18 degrees and the truck rapidly charged up to 85 percent, no issue.

It self drives as well and what I found really neat was in self parks as in backs into a parking space between other vehicles, with no driver input at all and the rear facing cam is pretty neat and very accurate as well.

Anyway, I got to drive it as well as being a passenger and there was plenty of room in the bed for a couple 3 full size does (gutted of course) and the 2 of us plus one more hunter in the backseat, all the hunting gear and rifles too. The suspension automatically adjusts for the cargo weight as well.

I like it, again, I'd never own one even though he'd like me to buy one, I won't.

I don't like the funky steering wheel or the severely raked windshield or the brushed stainless outer body (he does and it's his not mine).

One thing very absent in it is a passenger assist handle on the front A pillar and I sent a note to Elon about just that. It really needs an assist handle, especially when exiting the vehicle, it's extremely hard to get out of with cold weather hunting gear and hunting boots on and impossible to get out of with the body raised in off road mode.

We surely got a lot of stares motoring around in it, never saw another Cyber Truck the entire 4 days were were there. Saw other Tesla's however.

Thought I'd give a report on it so people can maybe see what they are like.

I believe they start around 100 grand, depending on options and you can get a full body wrap at additional cost of course. He owns 2 others as well. One is a gullwing door sedan, his lovely wife drives and the other is a plain jane model he has at his place of business for his employees to use.

If anyone has any questions, leave them in this thread and I'll do my best to answer them.

I too would never own a Cybertruck. For an EV truck I would prefer the F150 Lightning.
Interesting discussion over at Tesla Forum concerning the Cyber truck.
 
   / EV owners of today and tomorrow #1,662  
Stated before and will again that there will NEVER be an EV in this driveway for a number of reasons but..

2 weeks ago I went deer hunting in the northern lower of Michigan at our owned hunting property near Big Rapids, not only myself, but my cousin from Illinois who happens to own more than one Tesla, including a Cyber Truck.

We booked rooms at the local Hampton Inn which just happens to be across the road from a 'Supercharging' facility (coincidence maybe?).

Anyway we took the Cyber Truck out to the property numerous times with either myself or my cousin driving and I was quite impressed with the Cyber Truck's off road capability in as much as the only access to the ground is via seasonal (unmaintained) road and it was covered with a pretty deep layer of snow (it snows up there almost daily and snowed the entire time we were there).

My observations were, the Cyber Truck negotiated the seasonal, unplowed road very well with no wheel spin and the truck tells you to put it in 'off road' mode when it senses you have left the pavement. Off Road mode raises the entire body up 7" for ground clearance (and I presume to mitigate any damage to the battery) and changes how the motors react as well. The Cyber Truck he has came with large aggressive tires on nice looking alloy rims (he has what is called the 'Foundation Edition).

The interior has a lot of room inside, plenty of legroom and the front bucket seats are comfortable plus, it has a full size backseat as well as a spacious bed that is completely covered by an electric sliding hard tonneau cover. It's an impressive but stone ugly vehicle least in my view. I do like the instant heat versus an ICE where you have to wait for the motor to heat up to have interior heat. I don't like the severely sloped windshield and even my cousin said it was a royal PITA to clean. I also don't like the shape of the steering wheel, it's mildly rectangular and to me feels clumsy, but then I don't own it, I just drove it for a limited time.

Typical holds you back in the seat Tesla pickup on dry pavement and the vehicle automatically limits that on wet or snowy roads.

I see Musk addressed the cold ambient charging temperature issues as well. The battery either automatically 'conditions' itself prior to initiating a charge or if you just plug it into the Supercharge station, the battery conditions itself depending on ambient temp for between 5 and 15 minutes before it will accept a charge and it charges much quicker than his other Tesla's do (he told me that, I didn't observe it personally).

I have to presume that the battery has some sort of external cooling (heating) fluid circulating around it during the 'conditioning' sequence and probably has a heating element of sorts in that fluid to warm the battery. Whatever it has, it works peachy as it was well below freezing the entire time we were up there, actually, the high was 18 degrees and the truck rapidly charged up to 85 percent, no issue.

It self drives as well and what I found really neat was in self parks as in backs into a parking space between other vehicles, with no driver input at all and the rear facing cam is pretty neat and very accurate as well.

Anyway, I got to drive it as well as being a passenger and there was plenty of room in the bed for a couple 3 full size does (gutted of course) and the 2 of us plus one more hunter in the backseat, all the hunting gear and rifles too. The suspension automatically adjusts for the cargo weight as well.

I like it, again, I'd never own one even though he'd like me to buy one, I won't.

I don't like the funky steering wheel or the severely raked windshield or the brushed stainless outer body (he does and it's his not mine).

One thing very absent in it is a passenger assist handle on the front A pillar and I sent a note to Elon about just that. It really needs an assist handle, especially when exiting the vehicle, it's extremely hard to get out of with cold weather hunting gear and hunting boots on and impossible to get out of with the body raised in off road mode.

We surely got a lot of stares motoring around in it, never saw another Cyber Truck the entire 4 days were were there. Saw other Tesla's however.

Thought I'd give a report on it so people can maybe see what they are like.

I believe they start around 100 grand, depending on options and you can get a full body wrap at additional cost of course. He owns 2 others as well. One is a gullwing door sedan, his lovely wife drives and the other is a plain jane model he has at his place of business for his employees to use.

If anyone has any questions, leave them in this thread and I'll do my best to answer them.
Good review. We were sitting at a traffic light the other day and I told the wife that I wanted to get a new Tesla one of these years with all the new features and about that time a cyber truck crossed through the intersection. She says that would be the next Tesla that we get for her to drive and get the horse food. 🙂 She sees the covered bed as a good way to stock up on horse feed in bad weather and just leave it in the trunk until needed.

We have not test driven a cyber truck yet.
 
   / EV owners of today and tomorrow #1,663  
Stated before and will again that there will NEVER be an EV in this driveway for a number of reasons but..

2 weeks ago I went deer hunting in the northern lower of Michigan at our owned hunting property near Big Rapids, not only myself, but my cousin from Illinois who happens to own more than one Tesla, including a Cyber Truck.

We booked rooms at the local Hampton Inn which just happens to be across the road from a 'Supercharging' facility (coincidence maybe?).

Anyway we took the Cyber Truck out to the property numerous times with either myself or my cousin driving and I was quite impressed with the Cyber Truck's off road capability in as much as the only access to the ground is via seasonal (unmaintained) road and it was covered with a pretty deep layer of snow (it snows up there almost daily and snowed the entire time we were there).

My observations were, the Cyber Truck negotiated the seasonal, unplowed road very well with no wheel spin and the truck tells you to put it in 'off road' mode when it senses you have left the pavement. Off Road mode raises the entire body up 7" for ground clearance (and I presume to mitigate any damage to the battery) and changes how the motors react as well. The Cyber Truck he has came with large aggressive tires on nice looking alloy rims (he has what is called the 'Foundation Edition).

The interior has a lot of room inside, plenty of legroom and the front bucket seats are comfortable plus, it has a full size backseat as well as a spacious bed that is completely covered by an electric sliding hard tonneau cover. It's an impressive but stone ugly vehicle least in my view. I do like the instant heat versus an ICE where you have to wait for the motor to heat up to have interior heat. I don't like the severely sloped windshield and even my cousin said it was a royal PITA to clean. I also don't like the shape of the steering wheel, it's mildly rectangular and to me feels clumsy, but then I don't own it, I just drove it for a limited time.

Typical holds you back in the seat Tesla pickup on dry pavement and the vehicle automatically limits that on wet or snowy roads.

I see Musk addressed the cold ambient charging temperature issues as well. The battery either automatically 'conditions' itself prior to initiating a charge or if you just plug it into the Supercharge station, the battery conditions itself depending on ambient temp for between 5 and 15 minutes before it will accept a charge and it charges much quicker than his other Tesla's do (he told me that, I didn't observe it personally).

I have to presume that the battery has some sort of external cooling (heating) fluid circulating around it during the 'conditioning' sequence and probably has a heating element of sorts in that fluid to warm the battery. Whatever it has, it works peachy as it was well below freezing the entire time we were up there, actually, the high was 18 degrees and the truck rapidly charged up to 85 percent, no issue.

It self drives as well and what I found really neat was in self parks as in backs into a parking space between other vehicles, with no driver input at all and the rear facing cam is pretty neat and very accurate as well.

Anyway, I got to drive it as well as being a passenger and there was plenty of room in the bed for a couple 3 full size does (gutted of course) and the 2 of us plus one more hunter in the backseat, all the hunting gear and rifles too. The suspension automatically adjusts for the cargo weight as well.

I like it, again, I'd never own one even though he'd like me to buy one, I won't.

I don't like the funky steering wheel or the severely raked windshield or the brushed stainless outer body (he does and it's his not mine).

One thing very absent in it is a passenger assist handle on the front A pillar and I sent a note to Elon about just that. It really needs an assist handle, especially when exiting the vehicle, it's extremely hard to get out of with cold weather hunting gear and hunting boots on and impossible to get out of with the body raised in off road mode.

We surely got a lot of stares motoring around in it, never saw another Cyber Truck the entire 4 days were were there. Saw other Tesla's however.

Thought I'd give a report on it so people can maybe see what they are like.

I believe they start around 100 grand, depending on options and you can get a full body wrap at additional cost of course. He owns 2 others as well. One is a gullwing door sedan, his lovely wife drives and the other is a plain jane model he has at his place of business for his employees to use.

If anyone has any questions, leave them in this thread and I'll do my best to answer them.
Good review, but in summary, "You would never put an EV in your driveway because the Tesla Cybertruck is butt-ugly."

Agree abut the grab handle. The metrosexuals at Tesla Design seem to have something against handles to assist entry/exit. Not found on any Tesla.

Battery heating/conditioning: nothing has changed. It was that way in 2013. But if one soaks a Tesla at -10°F in Chicago then limps to a Supercharger it might take 30 minutes to gently warm the battery before it will start accepting a 20kW charge rate. One that could accept 250kW under ideal conditions. "The Gas Station Model Does Not Work for EVs". A modest 10kW L2 240V charge connection at home would have the car fully charged and ready by morning. Or one can spend hours at a Supercharger in the cold doing the same thing.

7" lift "to protect the battery"? I think it is primarily because the aforementioned Tesla Design thinks one needs a Monster Truck when off paved roads. Not sure what the Cybertruck has but my 2013 Model S had a titanium bash plate at the leading edge of the battery and it only ran inches off the paved road, and had option to lower it even more.
 
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Good review. We were sitting at a traffic light the other day and I told the wife that I wanted to get a new Tesla one of these years with all the new features and about that time a cyber truck crossed through the intersection. She says that would be the next Tesla that we get for her to drive and get the horse food. 🙂 She sees the covered bed as a good way to stock up on horse feed in bad weather and just leave it in the trunk until needed.

We have not test driven a cyber truck yet.

Access to the bed might be a problem. I would definitely test drive the Cybertruck before purchasing.
 
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Good review, but in summary, "You would never put an EV in your driveway because the Tesla Cybertruck is butt-ugly."
Being ugly has nothing to do with why I won't own one at all. Why would I when my buggy gets 40mpg on regular and it's long paid for and I don't do car payments, besides the fact my wife don't like them (EV's) either.

Far as battery conditioning on the Cyber Truck, it don't have to be plugged in to condition, in fact my cousin 'pre conditioned' the battery while we had coffee and doughnuts at the Hampton Inn, before he took it across the road to charge it.

Finally, why should I buy one when I can drive one and not pay for it....lol

Nice truck, just not for me.

Please note, he still has an ICE vehicle, a Beemer. He wants a Veyron but his wife said no. If he convinces her otherwise, I want to drive that sucker on a dry road of course. Good grief, a V12 and 200+ mph top speed... Not a cop in the land could touch you....
 
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Being ugly has nothing to do with why I won't own one at all. Why would I when my buggy gets 40mpg on regular and it's long paid for and I don't do car payments, besides the fact my wife don't like them (EV's) either.

Far as battery conditioning on the Cyber Truck, it don't have to be plugged in to condition, in fact my cousin 'pre conditioned' the battery while we had coffee and doughnuts at the Hampton Inn, before he took it across the road to charge it.

Finally, why should I buy one when I can drive one and not pay for it....lol

Nice truck, just not for me.

Please note, he still has an ICE vehicle, a Beemer. He wants a Veyron but his wife said no. If he convinces her otherwise, I want to drive that sucker on a dry road of course. Good grief, a V12 and 200+ mph top speed... Not a cop in the land could touch you....
That would be fast but it's still a lot slower the a Motorola.
 
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That would be fast but it's still a lot slower the a Motorola.
I agree, you cannot out run a Motorola. Besides, at my age, I'd probably have a coronary at that speed. Having said that, they do intrigue me. I think they are really neat vehicles. Cannot afford one but my cousin can. If you ever met him, you'd never know. He's a very low key person, in person. He does like to hunt however and so do I.
 
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Excellent review 5030. One thing I wonder is, if the vehicle has the ability to increase lift in off-road mode, why it doesn't just automatically squat for easy exit when parking and shut down? Heck, city busses have been doing that for 40 years.

Maybe it's selectable option?
 
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If Elon is as good with his appointment to DOGE as he is with building EV's and sending payloads into space, I'd say we have nothing to worry about on that score.

Elon impresses me as a down to earth straight shooter while still being the richest man on the planet.

I always enjoy listening to him. He comes across as a normal person unlike a lot of fat cats.
 
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