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<font color="green">If a TN farmer was losing $100 an acre on a crop or livestock. I would tell him the same thing, "find something that works do not blame the government for your mismanagement." </font>
They do all the time. I think you should look at the subsidy programs for the south Mark. They are just as great as they are for Iowa. For many crops they are even more.
If the ground isn't planted into food just what would you have the farmers do with the soil? This area is suited to growing corn, soybeans, hay, and on the irrigated ground potatoes, tomatoes, onions. We grow all of these and more. The crops we've lost the least on have been corn and soybeans. This year we plowed under 800 out of 2000 acres of potatoes because the bottom completely fell out of the market. No govt. program there. How many years do you just take and bury 40% of your current inventory out back? You can lose your shirt on any farm product that you raise. Do you just suggest that the farmers quit growing? Do you have any idea what the impact would be if farmers quit growing for just one year?
Great repsonsibility??? My goodness Mark you need to step into some of these guys shoes for awhile. You work 16-24 hour days 365 days a week. Every year there are less and less and less farmers. In a recent Farm Bureau survey 87% of farmers would not want their children to farm. 72% of farmers had other jobs and their wives worked. I'm not saying farmers are any kind of saints or anything but they work their dang tails off and certainly don't need to be told by you or I that they are doing a bad job. I don't know of too many professions that work as hard as farmers do. The only jobs that I know that come close to no benefits, no vacation, no sick leave, are the small business owners. I think everyone should have to own their own small business for one year. It gives you a completely different perspective on what's real in this world.
<font color="green"> I personally believe the CRP programs & support price subsidies are welfare social programs on the order of food stamps. </font>
CRP IS NOT paying not to plant. CRP deals with environmental issues and is only issued to ground that is highly erodable or of some other environmental concern. The land is put into food plots to restore game that brings in billions of dollars in hunting every year. As far as price susidies that is the government not the farmers. There isn't a farmer that I know of that would not favor deregulation or the farm program. You need to look at the bigger picture. By cost controlling food and keeping it cheap it benefits everyone. Do you want to be paying $5 for a loaf of bread or $10 a box for your corn flakes? It all comes around but it's not something that the farmer wants.
<font color="green">KS, MO, KY, TN, NY, & PA all have larger acreage amounts of hay than Iowa but yet will have 6-20 customers per section. </font>
For KS and MO I can't believe that they are much different that Iowa. I've been all over these three states and just like the hay situation I know what the rural landscape is really like.
<font color="red"> We should not have to pay farmers to not raise crops but let market demand set the prices. We should also play hardball with exports and imports. If our goods are not allowed free entry into another countries market then that countries goods should not be allowed to enter our markets.
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You won't find one single farmer that doesn't completely agree with this.
<font color="green">The true misfortune are the people that can not afford good healthcare </font>
Yes it is. It will also be same for food if farmers quit growing like you suggest. I really don't understand just what you want done with the ground. I'd like to know how you propose to fix the healthcare issue. It's pretty easy to sit back and armchair quarterback but it's another thing to be right in t he middle of it all.
They do all the time. I think you should look at the subsidy programs for the south Mark. They are just as great as they are for Iowa. For many crops they are even more.
If the ground isn't planted into food just what would you have the farmers do with the soil? This area is suited to growing corn, soybeans, hay, and on the irrigated ground potatoes, tomatoes, onions. We grow all of these and more. The crops we've lost the least on have been corn and soybeans. This year we plowed under 800 out of 2000 acres of potatoes because the bottom completely fell out of the market. No govt. program there. How many years do you just take and bury 40% of your current inventory out back? You can lose your shirt on any farm product that you raise. Do you just suggest that the farmers quit growing? Do you have any idea what the impact would be if farmers quit growing for just one year?
Great repsonsibility??? My goodness Mark you need to step into some of these guys shoes for awhile. You work 16-24 hour days 365 days a week. Every year there are less and less and less farmers. In a recent Farm Bureau survey 87% of farmers would not want their children to farm. 72% of farmers had other jobs and their wives worked. I'm not saying farmers are any kind of saints or anything but they work their dang tails off and certainly don't need to be told by you or I that they are doing a bad job. I don't know of too many professions that work as hard as farmers do. The only jobs that I know that come close to no benefits, no vacation, no sick leave, are the small business owners. I think everyone should have to own their own small business for one year. It gives you a completely different perspective on what's real in this world.
<font color="green"> I personally believe the CRP programs & support price subsidies are welfare social programs on the order of food stamps. </font>
CRP IS NOT paying not to plant. CRP deals with environmental issues and is only issued to ground that is highly erodable or of some other environmental concern. The land is put into food plots to restore game that brings in billions of dollars in hunting every year. As far as price susidies that is the government not the farmers. There isn't a farmer that I know of that would not favor deregulation or the farm program. You need to look at the bigger picture. By cost controlling food and keeping it cheap it benefits everyone. Do you want to be paying $5 for a loaf of bread or $10 a box for your corn flakes? It all comes around but it's not something that the farmer wants.
<font color="green">KS, MO, KY, TN, NY, & PA all have larger acreage amounts of hay than Iowa but yet will have 6-20 customers per section. </font>
For KS and MO I can't believe that they are much different that Iowa. I've been all over these three states and just like the hay situation I know what the rural landscape is really like.
<font color="red"> We should not have to pay farmers to not raise crops but let market demand set the prices. We should also play hardball with exports and imports. If our goods are not allowed free entry into another countries market then that countries goods should not be allowed to enter our markets.
</font>
You won't find one single farmer that doesn't completely agree with this.
<font color="green">The true misfortune are the people that can not afford good healthcare </font>
Yes it is. It will also be same for food if farmers quit growing like you suggest. I really don't understand just what you want done with the ground. I'd like to know how you propose to fix the healthcare issue. It's pretty easy to sit back and armchair quarterback but it's another thing to be right in t he middle of it all.
