engine will not shut off

[MoKioti]

Can't find anything in the forum on this but my 1997 LK3054 will not shut down when I turn the key off, I have to pull out the compression knob to stop it and the manual says this is bad on the valves. Anyone ever have the same problem? Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[USMMAN]

My Kioti Ck25 was doing that last year, and finally it wouldn't start. I took it to the shop, and it turned out to be a lot of trash in the fuel. It was pretty expensive because it took many hours of labor to remove the fuel tank and clean it out. I filled it up before the problem at a gas station. I guess their tank was almost empty and it picked up trash.

Good luck,

Jack

 

[MoKioti]

Thanks for the reply but the tractor runs great, it just won't shut down when I turn the key to off position.

 

[grsthegreat]

its probibly the stop solonoid. its a $20 part that takes 5 minutes to install. I know the DK series has these, so i bet the ck series also have them

 

[MoKioti]

Thanks for the reply, where would this be located or should I just follow the ignition wires?

 

[JoelD]

Mine is a 2004

I have a pull knob to shut down fuel to turn off

Mine is a manual fuel shut off and I have no decompression pull knob

Did it shut off with key in the past?

Joel

 

[ritcheyvs]

Thanks for the reply, where would this be located or should I just follow the ignition wires?

I'm unfamiliar with your model but most Kiotis use an electric solenoid on or near the injection pump. This solenoid pulls or pushes the injection rack to the full off position to cut off fuel to the injectors.

 

[DK35vince]

Its been a while since I've been around a 3054.
But it may not have an electric solenoid that shuts down with the key.
I thought they had a manual shutdown, like Joel's LK 3054,

 

[Bob in Ohio]

Had that problem on a jd755. The fuel shutoff solenoid would not release when the key was turned off. In my case it was not a faulty solenoid. There was a set of auxiliary contacts in the starter solenoid (probably unique to John Deere) that controlled the shutoff solenoid. verify whether your shutoff solenoid issue is electrical or mechanical. Look for a way to disconnect the hold-in coil on your shutoff solenoid after you turn the key off. If it drops out, the solenoid is OK. If it doesn't drop out, there is mechanical binding issues in the solenoid itself or in related linkages. Hope this helps.

 

[Patches]

Can't find anything in the forum on this but my 1997 LK3054 will not shut down when I turn the key off, I have to pull out the compression knob to stop it and the manual says this is bad on the valves. Anyone ever have the same problem? Thanks in advance for any help.

To my knowledge, none of the 3054/3054xs machines have an electrical shutoff; all have a manual pull cable. Mine is an '04 and it has the manual cable

 

[MoKioti]

Thanks for all the responses. I've had the tractor for several years and I've always had to pull the knob to stop it. Maybe I misread the manual but the way I read it says the knob I pull is for starting in cold weather to decompress the engine. I will take a closer look when I can get to the country where the tractor is located.

 

[Brad_Blazer]

Trace the pull knob wire to see if goes to the fuel pump (shutoff) or valve cover (compression release)
Also if it's a compression release and you pull it while cranking the behavior should be quite different, turning over smoothly without the typical compression resistance.

 

[MoKioti]

I use the knob to start it when it's cold and seems to turn the engine over faster. The manual states to to pull the knob and turn the enginge over for a few seconds and push in to start. I have no problem pulling the knob to stop, I just don't want to mess anything up. This little tractor has done more than it's fair share of heavy/light work. If I ever buy a new one it will be a Kioti.

 

[Patches]

I've not played with that old a Kioti, but perhaps the shut down is on the throttle, like the older 650 John Deere. On this machine, you simply pushed the throttle past the idle detent and it shut the fuel off at the pump.It sure sounds like the cable he's talking about is a compression release, and if so I wouldn't use it to shut the thing down

 

[MoKioti]

Thanks for all the help. I drove to the country today and I'm embarrassed to say there are two knobs. The decompressor is on the lower left and the kill knob, which I always use, is on the right. Again thanks for all the help it steered me in the right direction.
By the way, while the engine was running and I pulled the decompressor knob the engine sounded like crap, that's when I knew I was in the "duh" mode.

 

[PILOON]

For what it is worth,
My Mitsubishi has the shutdown solenoid feature (works just fine) but I also have a spring loaded lever that was safety wired n the relaxed position.
Being curious I cut the wire and behold that is a manual fuel shutoff!
I attached a choke cable to the lever and now have an emergency manual shut off as well.
Quite possible that other brands might also have that feature as there are not all that many injector pump manufacturers.
My guess is that the key shutoff could have been a North American compliance thing.

 

[grsthegreat]

glad you got it all worked out.

 

[LaVoie Equipment]

There is a solenoid on KIOTI tractors to shut them down. There are two types. LK's had an external solenoid type with a timer under dash to pull the solenoid for a few seconds to stop/shutdown the engine.

Key switch could be the problem. Remove and replace with new. If it doesn't fix proceed to below.

Go to right side of engine at injection pump, find solenoid, find single wire, unplug, take a jumper wire to 12V+ side of battery and touch (dont hold) to see if it moves. If it doesn't move, solenoid is bad. If it does timer is bad. NOTE: timer went bad for one reason or another. Buy both new timer AND solenoid. It would be bad if you hook up new timer and existing solenoid is drawing to many amps and burns up NEW timer.

Most dealers stock these parts. Call if you cannot find at your local dealer.

 

[Powhatan]

The shut down solenoid is not working properly. I'm not sure about your model but mine has a fuse that is tied in to the lights. I broke one of my lights land clearing and shorted out the contacts which blew the fuse and after that the engine would not shut down. I found out the fuse also controlled the shut down solenoid. I repaired the light and replaced the fuse and it is back to normal.

 

[robert thomas]

had this :confused2roblem with my dk45 Once the battery cable came off. it would not shut off. nothing wrong with the tractor. Might check and see if one of them is loose.:confused2: