Engine Heaters/BX2670...

[BCBSLICK]

Are there any type of heaters that can be used in the oil pan (hot dipstick) or something that can be put in the radiator to help the diesel on the 2670 start?...

I really don't want to go the the expense of a block heater as there would really be few times I need it here in Western PA...

I remember years ago I had a '70 (?) Plymouth Scamp and I had a dipstick that you plugged in to 110 and removed the oil dipstick and inserted the heater dipstick. Just left it in there overnight if it was going to be really cold. That thing started every time. Wouldn't without the hot dipstick though...

Any devices out there to help the Kubota start easier?...

Thanks...BCB

 

[RFB]

When I did my block heater it was not dificult or very expensive...the Kubota block heater runs about $63 which I do not know how that compares to the dipstick but it could not be too much.

The block heater install was easy. Drain coolant, remove expansion plug, insert heater with sealant, let cure, refill coolant.

 

[BCBSLICK]

When I did my block heater it was not dificult or very expensive...the Kubota block heater runs about $63 which I do not know how that compares to the dipstick but it could not be too much.

The block heater install was easy. Drain coolant, remove expansion plug, insert heater with sealant, let cure, refill coolant.

"Was Easy" is a relative term!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

I guess when I said in my first post that I didn't want to go to the expense of a block heater, I should have said that I didn't want to go to the expense of having the Kubota dealer install it after I try to install it and mess it all up!!!...

But, it doesn't sound too difficult unless one needs to remove bunches of other stuff to get to the expansion plug...

How about the magnetic heaters on the oil pan. Or would that just warm the oil and not help much with the starting process?...

Thanks...BCB

 

[buickanddeere]

There is only one place to jam those useless oil burning dipstick oil heaters...................
Use real synthetic oil from Mobil 1 or Amsoil to prevent lube oil jelling up.
The attached catalog has coolant and oil heaters of every type . Something will fit. If you can afford the tractor you can afford a proper heater. I'm just glad you didn't say you are using ether.
A couple of magnetic heaters under the oil pan will thin the oil but accomplish nothing to warm the combustion chambers.

http://www.phillipsandtemro.com/userfiles/file/2013_ZEROSTART_CATALOG.pdf

 

[RFB]

On the L5030 the only thing that needed to be remove was the side panel/cowling on the port side of the tractor. No different than taking off the starboard one for the oil filter.

The expansion plug was a meral disc...punched a hole into it with a big screwdriver and pried it out. Used a pair of visegrips to grab the first edge as it levered sideways to get a good grip on it.

The heater comes with a metal srew on sleeve to friction fit push into the block. Covered the outside diameter of the sleeve with sealant, started it into the block with a dead blow mallet, drove it home with a single jack and a short wood block. Screwed in the heater into the sleeve, replaced coolant, done and done.

The VT3300 Kubota generator motor had direct access, had a screw out plug; drain coolant, remove plug, install heater, replace coolant. Done.

 

[RFB]

Metal disc.

 

[AStanton]

I bought this magnetic block heater at Napa for about $30.00. The beauty is you can swap it between machines. I use the dollar in the pic to show the strength of the magnet.

 

[burk1953]

I bought this magnetic block heater at Napa for about $30.00. The beauty is you can swap it between machines. I use the dollar in the pic to show the strength of the magnet.

Does it work good? How long do you need to leave it on?

 

[bp fick]

I've got two of the silly magnetic heaters. Honestly, you can keep them. The power they draw is awful and the effect they have is so darn minimal. Simply not a block heater at all. Merely an attempt, imho, to try to warm the oil in the oil pan a bit. Eck!

The true block heater is wonderful. It only takes about 15 or 20 minutes and it is sizzling in there. I rarely use it, but I've had them on my last two Kubotas. Good to know it's there.

Absolutely, yes, on the synthetic engine oil. Nice 5W-40 and it'll turn over and flow nice, even in the cold weather. Thing to remember is not to be over confident in the block heater because the HST is stone cold and going to take awhile to warm up. Super UDT-2 is a nice, quick flow synthetic type product.

 

[buickanddeere]

I bought this magnetic block heater at Napa for about $30.00. The beauty is you can swap it between machines. I use the dollar in the pic to show the strength of the magnet.

I just checked the weather for CT and will all due respect. You do not receive cold winter weather A couple of 200W or 300W heaters under an engine would warm up if parked in a shed.
In sub zero temps or if a 1hour warmup is required at near freezing temps. Then a real coolant heater is the answer.



Monthly Normal High and Median Temperatures for Various Connecticut Cities
City Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
Bridgeport 37/23 39/25 47/32 57/41 67/51 76/60 82/66 81/65 74/58 63/46 53/38 42/28
Hartford 35/16 39/19 47/27 59/38 70/48 79/57 84/63 82/61 74/51 63/40 52/32 40/22

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[Tags]

I would go with a block heater personally even it it never gets below 20, youre engine will thank you....and it was -3 here in Redding, Connecticut this morning....

 

[RFB]

BP,

I have used Chevron Synthetic All-Weather THF in all of my Kubotas for the last 7 years. I started this because my dealer did not stock any K oils.

It meets or exceeds all the specs, and works very well in -0F and +100F temps. It also significantly reduces HST whine.

Here is a pdf of it: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...00706-l5740-hst-filter-change-chevron-thf.pdf

 

[AStanton]

Does it work good? How long do you need to leave it on?

I've had good luck with it. I leave it on for 2-4 hours before I fire up the motor. One time I made the mistake of touching the heater when I went to turn it off. I almost got a 3rd degree burn.

 

[bp fick]

Back a few years ago, I searched high and low for a distributor of that Chevron lo-vis or synthetic UTF and struck out. The marketing in this area, is about nil. The SUDT back then was OK, but not as modern as the newer stuff is today. Since I just poured the new SUDT-2 yesterday, I can tell you it poured like water in zero weather. Nice.

 

[tjl5709]

I put the Kubota block heater in my 2660. It was simple to do. Works very well. 20 min and the whole engine is warm.

 

[thirdroc17]

I won't knock synthetic oils, they can flow better in the cold, etc. But, when a cold diesel engine is first started, it rattle tat tat's and smokes. A different kind of oil will not change this life shortening experience for the engine, as it does not add any heat to the combustion chambers so it can run properly.

My 2670 will start when it's zero, just give the glow plugs a little time to work, and, rattle tat tat, smoke. Something it doesn't do on warmer days. Next winter it's going to see a for real block heater. Yes, it'll have synthetic oil too, but for different reasons than preheating the engine.

 

[Tractor Seabee]

If you have to worry about the engine oil in the cold, you better worry about the HST fluid also. It takes longer to get the HST up to operating temp than it does the engine. I had a log splitter gel up at 14 degrees F, changed the fluid to UDT and it still gelled up. Its 35 now and works fine.

Ron

 

[RFB]

Ron,

Try this... it will not gel at 14f


http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...00706-l5740-hst-filter-change-chevron-thf.pdf

 

[diesel lover]

The simpliset coolant preheater is a lower radiator hose heater. This is something you should use if you have no other options. Cost25$ to 75$. They work well but not NEARLY as efficient as a freeze plug mounted heater will. A freeze plug mounted heater is 25 to75$ as well and works a lot more effient due to the fact that the heating element is so close to the cylinder walls. Trust me I'm a full time truck mechanic and if they are not plugged in your chances are already a lot lower at 20 degs and under!

If the cost of the freeze plug mounted heater is bothering you you can get an ever start brand at oriellys for lower cost. I have read bad things about Katz freeze plug mounted heaters. In the case of your kabota freeze plug Mount is Easier than a circulating tank heater.