Engine Block Heater Installation

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zekeman

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Has anyone installed a block heater on their 4110 ? can an amateur do it or do I need the Dealer? where can it be purchased other than the dealer? " Cost " ?
Ron
 
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RON, MY NAME IS GALEN LAWALL AND I AM A MAHINDRA TRACTOR DEALER FROM BATAVIA, NY. I WOULDN'T THINK YOU SHOULD NEED A BLOCK HEATER ON THE 4110, I HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE 4110'S STARTING IN THE WINTER. IF I HAD TO PUT A BLOCK HEATER IN I WOULD SPLICE IT IN THE LOWER RADIATOR HOSE. THERE ARE HEATERS MADE JUST FOR THIS TYPE OF INSTALATION. GOOD LUCK
 
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Galen
Does this type of heater circulate the fluid as it heats, if no circulation how does the engine block get heated, or once started would warmed antifreeze crack a "ice" cold engine block. Another type heater recomended on another forum is the freeze out(welch) plug heater -"installed a threaded heater he picked up from his kubota dealer". One last question- are magnetic heaters attached to the block worthless.

Ron
 
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I live in eastern Iowa and my dealer (Franzen's) installs a block heater on every new Mahindra that it sells for ease of starting in the winter. The 7520 that I just had delivered a few weeks ago starts great so far, but when it gets 10 degrees or less, I will probably just plug it in so to make it easier on the motor starting. Just my 2 cents worth.
Brian
 
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The dealer I bought my 4110 from installs a heater in the radiator hose of each Mahindra he sells free of charge. They are not as good as a block heater, but should help in extreme cold.
 
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RON, SOME OF THE MAHINDRA TRACTOR MODELS COME WITH A METAL BLOCK IN THE LOWER RADIATOR HOSE, TO INSTALL THE HEATER ( 05 SERIES, C SERIES, 25 SERIES). I INSTALL BLOCK HEATERS IN EVERY 00 SERIES, 20 SERIES, 25 SERIES, C SERIES, AND 05 SERIES, TRACTORS I SELL, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WILL BE NEEDED. THE 10 SERIES AND 15 SERIES, WITH COMBUSTION CHAMBER GLOW PLUGS, HAVE NEVER HAD ANY COLD STARTING PROBLEMS. I REALY DON'T FEEL THE BLOCK HEATER IS NEEDED. GOOD LUCK. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO CALL ME, MY NUMBER IS 585-343-0770
 
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Up here in Wisc, sometimes we need all the help we can get on those cold winter mornings. The Mahindra 4500, does not have glow plugs for some reason that Mahindra deemed as not needed. I had one morning last winter where it "just barely" came to life. I consulted with my dealer(Burright Equip) out of Mt Morris, Ill, and he ordered a block heater and sent it to me at no charge. The installation took all of 20 minutes. I had to drain some coolant where it didn't flow out of the water drain plug housing(just above the starter). This is where the block heater is installed on the "00" series. None of the heaters that I'm familiar with actually have a pump as such to move the antifreeze around. A simple rule of physics is that warm water circulates or rises to the top on it's own. Anything that heats is better than nothing in my book but with a block heater, there is no cutting of the lower radiator hose. I plug my tractor in at night and the next morning, the whole block, including the oil - is warm. That brings us to the bottom line for all of us that live in the cooler climes. When you turn the key, you want warm oil circulating right away for lubrication. A lot of questions and thoughts in my mind and perhaps this should be on another thread but I'll try this first. I'm noticing that a lot of the original names that wrote in this forum when I came onboard are no longer writing. This is the only forum I'm aware of that has a Mahindra owners voice. Either we try to keep it alive with useful info or problems or we relegate to nothing more than a bragging post to the size of our toys. If what we're seeing for problems from owners is as small as the complaints - Mahindra has to be the best built tractor around. I for one have gleaned alot of info from this site and have always offered a reply when I thought it was applicable. I apologize for the long dissertation but I see this forum as a very useful tool as an owner.
 
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Well I'm not sure I would even need a block heater here in Ky, but Iwonder what the cost on one for the 6000 would be? I would rather by from an internet dealer than even talk to the folks I bought mine from.
 
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I had a block heater installed on my 2615 when i bought it. $138.00 I know it's alot of money but i coudn't fined one that would fit it anywhere else.It takes a very small one because the freeze plug hole is so small.
 
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Clyde
The first part of your letter was helpful and appreciated. The second part was a little fuzzy as far as how it can be interpreted,
Are you saying the question was so minor and/or stupid that it should not have been asked? "OR" are you disappointed that the responses from people who "should know" are not answering the questions. After putting 85 hrs on my 4110 in just over two months my opinion of this Mahindra tractor is that it is not "THE" best, but IT IS -"ONE OF THE" best on the market today.
Ron
 
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Galen
Thanks for your helpful information, I will let you know how it turns out.
Ron
 
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I found the package that the block heater came in - I put the parts that came out of the 4500 in it when I installed the heater. It is a Kat's frost plug type heater/block heater and has a Kat's part number on it. Part #11409. I looked the part up in a few auto parts company's on the web and the price is $24.99. It is listed as 400w - 120v. This should be universal across the "00" series Mahindra's. The only part that has to be bought from Mahindra is a different water drain plug housing - Mahindra part number is 006000385 F1, and water drain plug gasket - Mahindra part # 000020495 E05. Installation is relatively simple but the plastic cover over the starter has to be removed during installation and replaced afterwards. I cut a notch in the plastic cover to allow the cover to lay in it's original position because of the power cord on the heater. I don't think Mahindra would want much more than $25.00 or less for the 2 parts making it a $50.00 job at worse case scenario. I hope this helps and answers any questions. I'll try to answer any questions you might have.
 
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Ron - I apologize if the 2nd part of my letter came off sounding like the questions posed were stupid. Quite the opposite! I'm just looking for more people with problems to express them in this forum. I think there is a vast wealth of knowledge contained within the readers that use this site and perhaps some fellows think their questions might sound trite and insignificant. If I have any complaint, it is not with my tractor but the way Mahindra seems to closely guard their inner sanctum by not even keeping their dealers apprised of updates and change notices on equipment out in the field already. Once again Ron, my apologies for my poorly composed letter and if I didn't believe in the potential of this forum - I wouldn't waste my time. I want to read and see pictures of one blue tractor in a 2 acre field of red tractors along with ideas, inventions, etc that other people have come up with.
 
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Clyde
No appology needed. Sometimes I need a few extra words to make it clearer. As far as this forum and this tractorbynet site,
I am warnig everybody - I will be asking a lot of stupid and/or
complicated questions in the future, there are some things I am real good at but my tractor ownership is brand new to me.
Clyde, I have read some of your response in the past and I do agree 98% of what you say, there's alot more important things in life than spilling diesel fuel when you fill up your tank.
Ron
 
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Only 98% of the times Ron?.....I'm really hurt. You are a hard man to convince. In reality - there are no stupid questions asked. The only person that is afraid to ask a question is the man that is going to suffer. I would venture to say that most of us are first time tractor users and we were lucky enough to buy the right tractor the 1st time around for the best price. I don't promote ridicule, snide remarks, but I do stand behind giving the best advice that I can and believing in the man that has been there before.
 

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