electric vehicles

[DarkBlack]

Again, you don't own an EV so your opinions about the pro's and con's of owning and operating EV's are pretty much worthless.

Would you value my opinion on tractors if I never owned or operated a tractor?

Obviously my examples and explanation got lost on you

 

[DarkBlack]

You can form an opinion on anything. Just that forming an opinion without personal experience won't be taken serious by me.
I've learned more about EV's by owning and operating than I could by reading biased opinions.
Why do you care if people own EV's? How are you offended?

I certainly don’t comment on intricacies of ownership like ride quality, interior quality, owner satisfaction, etc,.. I keep it strictly to the published technical facts, which I use to voice my opinion.
I don’t need to buy a cat , to voice my opinion it wouldn’t be what I want for a guard dog

 

[Gator6x4]

Battery cars aren’t new technology, it’s actually older than gasoline powered vehicle technology . I’m sure there’s an old photo of horses pulling an early electric battery carriage/car out of the mud too.
Battery cars had their growth, and demise many years ago ending when Henry Ford showed the country he could make a gasoline car for 1/3 the price of a battery car. Some things never change
What we have now, is a resurrection of battery cars by government mandates, not by choice of the public because of a more convenient transportation type.
We have gasoline cars now, that can go 45 miles on a little 7 pound gallon of gasoline, and do it with amazing little emissions. Now that’s some technical advancement

I have owned a lot of motor vehicle in my life time. I have never had one that even came close to 30 MPG much less 47 mpg. Of course the vehicles I owned had doors, windows, heaters and then later air conditioning. Now some of the old bicycles with a two stroke gas helper engine probably got 47 miles to a gallon.

 

[shooterdon]

If we save just one person from buying an EV they will regret, it is worth all the verbal abuse we "haters" take...LOL

I will likely regret getting an EV but it could happen in a couple of years. It might work as a second vehicle for most of our driving if fuel gets expensive again. I do not have to own an EV to know it will never work as our only vehicle. But if, he who cannot be named, wins in 2024 and gas goes to less than $2.50, it makes an EV a less desirable choice. Better off with a 35 mpg ICE

Trado, I don't have to own a horse to know it does not make sense for my needs. You might lighten up a bit. Keep sharing the "good news" about your EVs and get converts.

 

[Richard001]

Oh Puuuuulease. Dramatic much?
You are more likely to have your ICE vehicle catch fire with that gas bomb in the back.
EV fires less likely than ICE

So we are to believe a statement from a EV manufacture on the safety of EV vehicles ?

 

[Hay Dude]

Remember who is pushing EV’s along with their manufacturers.
Picking winners & losers.
That’s all you need to know.

 

[Hay Dude]

Again, you don't own an EV so your opinions about the pro's and con's of owning and operating EV's are pretty much worthless.

I gotta call BS on that statement. Just because you don’t own an EV, doesn’t mean you can’t be extremely well informed and capable of a highly eductated opinion on them.

Tom Brady has a QB coach. Is his QB coach allowed to give him opinions about playing QB? Tiger Woods has a golf coach. Can Tiger’s golf coach give him opinions on golf?

Would you value my opinion on tractors if I never owned or operated a tractor?

Yes, I might. It would depend on how well versed you were on them. Perhaps you are a tractor engineer or designer. Or maybe you run a farm but cant drive tractors because of a health condition.
Or maybe you are a experienced tractor mechanic who repairs them.

I would value their opinions.

 

[Williy]

I don't need to own an ev to know that I will probably
never purchase one. You can go on the net and find
they cost more than a gas/diesel vehicle, read about
all the problems they are having on the news/net. They
take too long to fill up, compared to a gas/diesel unit.
I can replace a gas/diesel engine a lot cheaper than
replacing the battery in an ev. A young lady reported
on her ev the cost of driving and she said her gas car
was cheaper to operate. toyota first ev mileage was
not even close to what they said and the first maintenance cost $1400 for this price you can have
many years of tuneups for a gas vehicle. Also I have
never had to push my gas or diesel machine in the winter

willy

 

[tradosaurus]

So we are to believe a statement from a EV manufacture on the safety of EV vehicles ?

But you believe the fake news against EV's.

 

[AndyMA]

I've had a Model 3 Tesla for 4 years. other than 1 set of tires, wiper blades and cabin air filter no other costs. Charge on solar so no fuel costs.
I never buy an ICE vehicle again

 

[ultrarunner]

2001 run of the mill Toyota Corolla with auto, a/c, ps, pb, abs, side airbags, etc… honest 40+ mpg highway.

23 years no issues… oil changes, brake pads, tires, etc… no repairs

 

[mikester]

Amazing how the promoters of these electric vehicles have little regard for their own country and the amount of off shore parts & labor these vehicles contain. They also can be so easily regulated & shut off by the manufacturer or the gov____ment.

Most EV’s are loaded with Chinese components and China passed us as the #1 industrial power in the world.

Anyone care anymore?

Ford took a 30% discount on our parts and moved manufacturing from Canada/USA to China. I care. What can I do about it? Buy Japanese cars. FU Ford.

What can you do about it? Stop buying cheap Chinese crap from Amazone, Homedespot and Wallymart.

The government just legitimizes what big business wants to do...export your good paying jobs to slave labour overseas...then tax us citizens to make up the tax shortfall caused by corporate globalization.

 

[Gator6x4]

I gotta call BS on that statement. Just because you don’t own an EV, doesn’t mean you can’t be extremely well informed and capable of a highly eductated opinion on them.

Tom Brady has a QB coach. Is his QB coach allowed to give him opinions about playing QB? Tiger Woods has a golf coach. Can Tiger’s golf coach give him opinions on golf?





Yes, I might. It would depend on how well versed you were on them. Perhaps you are a tractor engineer or designer. Or maybe you run a farm but cant drive tractors because of a health condition.
Or maybe you are a experienced tractor mechanic who repairs them.

I would value their opinions.

There are worlds of difference between an opinion based on experience, knowledge and technical expertise and a opinion based on nothing but a belief and knowledge received through propaganda.

 

[Gator6x4]

2001 run of the mill Toyota Corolla with auto, a/c, ps, pb, etc… honest 40+ mpg highway.

23 years no issues… oil changes, brake pads, tires, etc… no repairs

And all that while driving in the stop, crawl along traffic on a California freeway. Okay if you say so.

Gas Mileage of 2001 Toyota Corolla

Search by Model. Search by make for fuel efficient new and used cars and trucks

www.fueleconomy.gov

 

[Hay Dude]

I've had a Model 3 Tesla for 4 years. other than 1 set of tires, wiper blades and cabin air filter no other costs. Charge on solar so no fuel costs.
I never buy an ICE vehicle again

Did you buy it with any subsidies or tax incentives? If you did, good for you.
Not saying you did, but those who did cost taxpayers a lot of money.

 

[DarkBlack]

I've had a Model 3 Tesla for 4 years. other than 1 set of tires, wiper blades and cabin air filter no other costs. Charge on solar so no fuel costs.
I never buy an ICE vehicle again

Your solar system didn’t cost you anything?
I imagine it did. You paid for your electricity in advance.

 

[Hay Dude]

Your solar system didn’t cost you anything?
I imagine it did. You paid for your electricity in advance.

And the solar power system may have been taxpayer subsidized as many are.

 

[DarkBlack]

2001 run of the mill Toyota Corolla with auto, a/c, ps, pb, etc… honest 40+ mpg highway.

23 years no issues… oil changes, brake pads, tires, etc… no repairs

Imagine a battery car after 23 years, and a couple $10k battery swaps

 

[ultrarunner]

And all that while driving in the stop, crawl along traffic on a California freeway. Okay if you say so.

Gas Mileage of 2001 Toyota Corolla

Search by Model. Search by make for fuel efficient new and used cars and trucks

www.fueleconomy.gov

I don’t have any stop and go… unless there happens to be an accident.

I leave home at 3:30 am each work day and the only stop is left turn onto freeway.

I get off freeway and left turn into work parking lot…

No traffic to speak of at 3:30 am and average traffic at noon… even in the SF East Bay…