Dump trailer idea didn't work (pic)

[Racer71]

I am moving a lot of dirt and need a dump trailer. This didn't work for several reasons.

1 Not all of the dirt emptied out of the trailer.
2 The tongue didn't come down so I could hook up with dirt still in it.
3 Without anything hanging on the 3ph the back of the tractor was too light for digging out the dirt even with loaded tires. (Driving on 2 wheels is fun )

Be careful if you try this. There are a lot of ways this can go bad.

 

[gemini5362]

I am moving a lot of dirt and need a dump trailer. This didn't work for several reasons.

1 Not all of the dirt emptied out of the trailer.
2 The tongue didn't come down so I could hook up with dirt still in it.
3 Without anything hanging on the 3ph the back of the tractor was too light for digging out the dirt even with loaded tires. (Driving on 2 wheels is fun )

Be careful if you try this. There are a lot of ways this can go bad.

I had an old pickup bed that was made into a trailer. I tried the same thing you showed in the picture with the trailer full of old roofing shingles. It did not work because as the shingles came out they made a pile right behind the trailer that eventually got big enough to stop the lfow out of the bed. With this setup you cannot pull forward like you can with a dump trailer. When I lowed the trailer down and pulled it forward and tried again it eventually dumped all the shingles out of the trailer but took several tries.

 

[Tig]

Thanks for posting this I had thought of trying the same thing. My current plan is the loadhandler. I'd like to drive it with a hydraulic motor so I can dump without getting off the tractor.

 

[john_bud]

That method works, but you have to line the bed of the trailer with sheetmetal. You can use 18 or 20 ga and just tack it down. Or you can put some 1/4" black iron pipe across the width (4-5 of them) and sheets of plywood on top. The load will slide out. Or you can buy one of the load handlers like you put on the tailgate of a truck. I think Harbor Freight sells them too.

jb

 

[easygo]

I thought of doing the same thing only with a much smaller trailer. That way - I think - I could just push the trailer up high enough and drag it away from the pile to let the (in my case) compost or firewood slide out. I also thought of making a special tongue that is much shorter to allow for actually lift it higher. I only have to move much smaller amounts of that stuff though. Have not tried it yet.

 

[sandman2234]

For some reason, I don't think that is what we had in mind when we suggested a dump trailer for your project. You do have a trailer to modify into a dump trailer, so all you have to do is get busy! Judging from the weather some of the other guys are talking about, I would think you better hurry!
David from jax

 

[RobJ]

You might be able to convert that single tongue trailer to a dump trailer. However it looks like the wheels are centered on that trailer instead of the standard 60/40 setup. This is an ATV trailer I made but the principal is the same.

Good Luck,
Rob

 

[jjmarotz]

Why not add a set of 12" or so adjustable hight gauge wheels to each rear corner as close to the back corner as possible, that way when the trailer is lifted to max height then simply, (and SLOWLY) back away from the debris and the trailer will follow on the wheels. When trailer is in down position the rear wheels will not interfere with the normal motion of the trailer. Worth a try or at least look into. Of course some modifications to my idea may be warranted.

 

[zzvyb6]

Looks like you still had 12 - 18" of height available from the loader curl. Next time put a plastic sheet in there before you add the dirt.

 

[2manyrocks]

Has anybody here tried laying a piece of carpet over a chain, filling the trailer and then putting the carpet out with the chain? I think you'd have to lap the end of the carpet over the load so it pulls out, but has anybody tried it? I'm going to give it a shot when I can get to it.

 

[Racer71]

My first goal is to make moving dirt quicker. Using the tractor to "dump" the trailer takes time along with the hook and unhook (at both ends of the trip). Right now it is easier to just drive the bucket load over and dumpt it where needed. Sorry but this plan just isn't working.

 

[Rara Avis]

I am moving a lot of dirt and need a dump trailer. This didn't work for several reasons.

1 Not all of the dirt emptied out of the trailer.
2 The tongue didn't come down so I could hook up with dirt still in it.
3 Without anything hanging on the 3ph the back of the tractor was too light for digging out the dirt even with loaded tires. (Driving on 2 wheels is fun )

Be careful if you try this. There are a lot of ways this can go bad.

That picture loads like a Rube Goldberg...

Rube Goldberg

just waiting to hurt someone...try the following...

Welcome to Loadhandler.com

 

[Chuck K.]

I had the same problem on a larger scale... I loaded ~10,000 pounds of concrete in my nice 24" gooseneck lowboy. I covered the floor with plywood and made side boards to protect the rails.



I hauled the cement to the dump location where my Brother in law was going to lift the front of the trailer with a cherry picker and all the concrete would slide out.... Well concrete does not slide well on plywood particularly when the rough side of concrete was face down. So he had to lift the entire trailer vertical up ~30' in the air. I was nervous to say the least.
Will share some pics once they are developed...

 

[tbentti]

My first goal is to make moving dirt quicker. Using the tractor to "dump" the trailer takes time along with the hook and unhook (at both ends of the trip). Right now it is easier to just drive the bucket load over and dumpt it where needed. Sorry but this plan just isn't working.

Check out the website Dump-Pro! Turn your Pickup into a Dumptruck in Minutes! Dump-Pro(R) Website

 

[have_blue]

just waiting to hurt someone...try the following...

Welcome to Loadhandler.com

Load Handler's are intriguing, but I'm sure you can't haul much dirt with them.

One of the best setups for moving large amounts of dirt quickly is a belly dump trailer. I suppose they wouldn't work with mud or rocks. You obviously can't dump large tall piles with it, but it would be great for building up low areas.

http://www.trailbuilders.org/member_resources/trail_tailor_resources/belly_dump_empty.jpg

 

[WayneB]

just waiting to hurt someone...try the following...

Welcome to Loadhandler.com

A friend of ours has one of the loadhandlers and he uses it on his small Dodge pickup. seems to work fine for him with cord wood and I have seen him use it with bark mulch. Not too sure if I would put stone in the truck though, at least I would let them use a yard loader to do load it.

Wayne

 

[Rara Avis]

Load Handler's are intriguing, but I'm sure you can't haul much dirt with them.

One of the best setups for moving large amounts of dirt quickly is a belly dump trailer. I suppose they wouldn't work with mud or rocks. You obviously can't dump large tall piles with it, but it would be great for building up low areas.

http://www.trailbuilders.org/member_resources/trail_tailor_resources/belly_dump_empty.jpg

We're talking apples and oranges NOW...

What's the cost of that???... You might as well buy a dump truck...

Here's the other thread dealing with it...

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/111018-loadhandler.html

 

[have_blue]

We're talking apples and oranges NOW...

What's the cost of that???... You might as well buy a dump truck...

Here's the other thread dealing with it...

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/111018-loadhandler.html

Seems to me it shouldn't be much harder or a lot more expensive to build than the one in the original post. Unfortunately, It does require an extra axle though.

 

[Iplayfarmer]

I thought of doing the same thing only with a much smaller trailer. That way - I think - I could just push the trailer up high enough and drag it away from the pile to let the (in my case) compost or firewood slide out. I also thought of making a special tongue that is much shorter to allow for actually lift it higher. I only have to move much smaller amounts of that stuff though. Have not tried it yet.

I was real close to converting one of these pickup bed trailers into a dump trailer by following the pattern for the Pickup dump bed conversions. The trailer I had to work with, though, was from a compact truck and the location of the spring mounts was too far back to really be able to do it the way I had planned.

There's a great step-by-step article at the link below...
Chevy Dumpbed Pickup Truck - Four Wheeler Magazine

 

[IslandTractor]

What's the cost of that???... You might as well buy a dump truck...

That is not such a wild idea especially if you are using it off road. I've noticed that there are quite a few F350 or equivalent GM dump trucks with decent life left in them for sale under $3000 in my area. These are typically twenty year old trucks with decent fundementals but nothing you'd want to drive to the prom (or grocery store for that matter) but still perfectly operational. I haven't gotten around to inquiring about whether it is necessary to register them if you are just using them on a farm or your own property. If you don't need to buy expensive insurance, it would seem a reasonable solution especially for a limited time project.