Dump Trailer (attachment/ oh well)

[SPIKER]

Just wanted to say take a look at my dump trailer I just finished building...

also barn & other pics.

http://www.bright.net/~ispike/home2

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[Bird]

Nice work, and nice set of pictures, Mark.

 

[Knute]

The trailer looks great Mark, I have one question though. Why did you put the hydralic jack so far towards the back? All the leverage from the weight of whatever is in the trailer would seem to be working against you that way.

Let us know how it works out, it looks terrific!

John

 

[cowboydoc]

Like your barn. Nice job. Did you build that yourself?

 

[Hoeman00]

Are u in northern Ohio?
Noticed the firelands propane tank.

 

[tld]

Iss that a cut down mobile home axle?

 

[SPIKER]

Hi Guys;

I'm in northen ohio yes, Jeromesville (between Mansfield and Wooster on OLD us30

It was an OLD mobil home axel, only going to be used behind the tractor on the farm so it is not a high speed application so it was Free and New 12 ply tires on her too! I can get a pretty good supply of them as I've got some friend who set trailers for livings.


The cylinder is not that far back, and any weight that is beyond the piviot point will help off set the weight that is ahead of the piviot point, the cylinder will only have to lift about 36" worth of material. My jinma tractor lifts it DRY while ideling and the mower on the 3 point for Ballast for the hydraulic output which would be normally for a dual wheel rotary cutter which would raise 3pt and lift wheels at the same time, it is my only hyd output on that compact. If i find it wants to raise the hole trailer (on 3 pt) while dumping then that shouldn't be a problem as it will still dump and the raised 3 pt will help the dumping forces that the cylinde exerts.


Hope that answered the questions, I'll hopefully be able to use it this comming weekend, as I was busy framing inside the barn this weekend.

I've been working on the barn with my brother, but I had amish crew put up the main structure and found it was easier and cheaper that way. put little over 23K into it with everything so far. framing ran just under 20 and rest in electrical and misc stuff.

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[SPIKER]

New update:

used it today, it dumps pretty good, the 2&5/16 ball hitch I used is not very good though makes it a hassel to hook/unhook as paint gummed it up some. I've got to add some more lenght to my "T" bar so I can turn sharper too as that hitch has a wide flange and it just stickes out too far.

I dumped probably 1.5 yards several times today mostly wet creek wash/run gravel and stone clay sand mix. goot for fill material under the barn area where the floor needs about 20 more " of fill.

I took some pictures of it loaded and dumping but didn't bring in the camer to load them up. I'll post them this weekend I hope. I should have moveed the axel a little farther back for more tong weight though as I have to raise my 3 pt almost to stops to get enough pressure to lift the full loads. also those loads were mostly on the front half of the trailer as I wanted to keep the weight onto the 3pt/toung area.

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Mark M

 

[B7500]

Nice work! Wanna build one for me? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
-Terry

 

[SPIKER]

Pictures updated and posted at links above.

Terry:

I would have to get a good penny to build one, one weeks worth of work, plus the materials and shop costs would mean that it would cost someone about $2500.00 for one like it. dual axels would add some more too that cost...

I have not priced them commercially but some one said look to spend about 4500 for a dual axel road worthy unit with lights & brakes. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Mark

 

[Hambone]

Can't you move the ball up on the attachment? Looks like the 3ph is up quite a ways to keep trailer level. If you moved ball up you would have more upward movement. It would be easier the moving axle forward.

 

[_RaT_]

Very nice job on the trailer, /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[NoTrespassing]

Hey Mark, Sweet barn! Are those manufactured trusses for the barn or did you make them yourself? My wife and I made our own for our little barn and they were the biggest pain in the A$$ of the whole project! How much do you suppose they'll raise your taxes for that barn? Nice trailer man!

Kevin

 

[Phred]

Good job!

One thing I noticed is your dump truck style tailgate. I have used ones like that and ones that swing to the side. The ones that swing to the side can be more trouble to open up but you can haul big stuff like rocks, etc.. that won't fit under the tail gate you have.

Big tex has a neat setup that allows you to use the gate like a dump truck or swing open as you desire. This is the best of both worlds. All it takes to modify what you have is a long pin the goes down one side of the gate. It acts like a pin to hold the gate closed in "dump truck" mode, or a hinge for the opening to the side.

Maybe add a hydraulic cylinder to allow lifting the gate. This would help while spreading gravel.

Fred

 

[SPIKER]

PHRED:

the tail gate already is designed to act as a pickup bed tail gate or a dump gate, the chaines hold the tailgate up in the pickup mode and closed in the dump mode but so far Ive just left it swing open for a dump and left it go into piles as the stuff has enough clay mix to make it sticky so it pobably would not spread it easly so I didn't even try.

Barn trusses are fabed up on site using 1/2" solid plywood and glue/stapels They were built on the decking one was made and the rest made on top of the first as a template. lots of cutting of the plywood for the braces... each truss has plywood on each side with PL and then about 20 stapels on each side too. the plywood was used at every intersection of wood to wood...

As of yet they have not even came out to take a look for taxs. I let them know i was building a barn and haven't heard a thing since. I did my part but I really don;t have any PROOF that I sent in the required card. Though what I'm told that FARM barns do not add to taxable realestate locally??? Not 100% sure but hey I let them know i was bulding... No permits required out there as there are now zoneing.!

I;t is kind of hi up in the air when dumping but does work. I need to extend the ball mount back enough for tighter turning is only REAL problem for the trailer. I would like to have more toung weight but it really isn't required, it just is a bit light when trying to DUMP . It wants to stay dumped if the hitch is all the way up I have to step on the 3pt to lower it if I get it too high up...

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Mark

 

[SPIKER]

HI ALL: Just wanted to update this thread, I was looking back over OLD posts and see the links in page one are bad as I no longer use that provider.

here is an updated LINK for some of the Photos many were lost due to the NEW service provider and a hard drive that died. dump trailer Photos by WPSPIKER | Photobucket

The PAINT has held up pretty well considering I use it mostly for gravel and rocks. The Hyd Cylinder was a freebie from work and it leaks some so I have to watch that. I've also gotten a 12VDC Jack Pump Valve system last summer with intents of putting that on so I can DUMP and pull with my truck & LOAD with the tractor & not need the tractor hyd...

Mark M