Drilling multiple holes in a line.

   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #21  
"That would be an extremely tough sell to the better half. "

Mark, that's probably because you weren't lucky enough to marry a woman that made the mistake of admitting that she married you (53 years ago) 'cause you had leatherworking TOOLS :D

(Not that that ALWAYS works; but it doesn't HURT...) :rolleyes: ...Steve
 
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#22  
Well, I know what I would do... whether it be smart or not. I would convince myself I needed a Mag drill and a nice set of annular bits. This would be what I was rationalize as the 'right' tool after considering an ironworker. That would be an extremely tough sell to the better half. :D

That said, I really like the pegboard and center punch idea as a poor man's jig.

Wow. You think like I do. That’s been my mindset for 30 years. So I have the greatest tool collection for a occasional user ever. Now what about that Hypertherm plasma cutter? But I don’t have your problem. I divorced my “better half”, (and that is debatable ) so no longer a problem. And my now girlfriend impressed me initially when I discovered she owned her own Milwaukee sawzall. So she understands my tool addiction.
 
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#23  
My new best friend for the past 8 years or so.:thumbsup:

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It's limited (for punching) to the thickness of your material, ie; 3/8" minimum size hole is 3/8, 1/2 is 1/2 etc. I think it a "property" of mild steel that must be adhered to when punching. Iirc my little I/W's (maximum) will punch a 1" hole through 5/8 material.

HCJ, it might be worth a trip to a local fab guy with an iron worker. He might get you for an hour minimum but it's an option, unless you want to drive to Maine. I'll get you a beer and punch them for nuthin.

Hey. Great offer. Always wanted to see a Maine. I hear it’s beautiful
 
   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #24  
HJC, might wanna go back a ways; I added to previous post, during which time about 12 MORE posts happened... Steve
 
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Thanks Steve. Good info. In researching mag drills, I did notice that small annular cutters aren’t available. Guess I could use an accessory chuck and use regular bits. And a 3/8 big should cut fairly easily I expect. But it’s tempting to buy a mag drill for larger holes. I’m using hole saws now in my press for 3/4 or 1” holes. That’s no fun.
 
   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #26  
"That would be an extremely tough sell to the better half. "

Mark, that's probably because you weren't lucky enough to marry a woman that made the mistake of admitting that she married you (53 years ago) 'cause you had leatherworking TOOLS :D

(Not that that ALWAYS works; but it doesn't HURT...) :rolleyes: ...Steve
Actually, my wife is very supportive of all the tools I bought and continue to buy. Second wife and she should have seen it coming when she first saw my garage. :eek:

I just have to remember to think about how good she is to me, especially when I am up late night (she is sleeping) looking on Amazon Prime to see what tool I can get in two days shipped for free! Right now she is whipping something up in the kitchen that is some kind of stir fry. Mushrooms and some applewood smoked bacon are in the mix. I gladly buy her anything that goes in the kitchen! :D

Wow. You think like I do. That痴 been my mindset for 30 years. So I have the greatest tool collection for a occasional user ever. Now what about that Hypertherm plasma cutter? But I don稚 have your problem. I divorced my 澱etter half? (and that is debatable ) so no longer a problem. And my now girlfriend impressed me initially when I discovered she owned her own Milwaukee sawzall. So she understands my tool addiction.
Yeah, she actually surprised me buying the Hypertherm plasma cutter I had on my xmas list! Maybe I am just trying not to rub it in on all the guys that aren't as lucky as I am in the 'wife understanding department'. :cool2:
 
   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #27  
I bought a nice commercial variable speed mag drill at an auction. I sold it to a friend. I don't even know about those cutters and all that stuff, so I just go there if I need holes drilled. It's mind boggling what a guy can spend on tooling.
 
   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #28  
Of course one can always apply the first rule of projects:
Every new project requires at least one new tool.
I have had some really dirty looks from some of my friends spouses when I informed them of this within earshot of said spouse.:D
 
   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #29  
Yeah but ^^^ they last soooo much longer than drill bits. I think in the long run inch for inch (of drilled hole) they are cheaper than normal drill bits.

HJ, I bought an "Evolution" mag drill years (15?) ago. There may be years where I only use it a few times, but every one of those holes (1/2" on up to 2 1/4? is worth every penny. I'd like to move up to a "big boy" brand, maybe one day but the Evolution for my usage is doing fine.
 
   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #30  
Use a bolted down vise to control the "Y" axis,,

Measure and center punch for the "X" axis, If you want the X axis to be super accurate,,, drill with a 1/8" bit first,,,

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   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #31  
You might have a couple of saw horses.

Lower the drill table and head down to their level. Set a fence if you want.

Run that scribe line down the length, and set off the spacing with dividers. Start at the middle and work out both ways.

Prick punch if you want. But it won't matter, as long as the twist drill is sharp and of good quality.

This is a piece of Agricultural equipment, a few thou here or there won't make any difference.
 
   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #32  
Run that scribe line down the length, and set off the spacing with dividers. Start at the middle and work out both ways.

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Good advice
 
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   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #33  
I知 building a landscape rake and need to drill 50 3/8 holes spaced two inches apart along a straight line. I plan to use either 1/2 or 3/8 angle or something similar. I have a floor drill press, but it痴 not a great one, but adequate. I致e even thought about buying a mag drill if I thought it would help. Saw a off brand online for $450 that got good reviews.

How would you guys do this? Using a starter punch seems inaccurate. I thought about building a jig with an indexing pin, or a template. Any ideas on how to set this up? And what bit would be best, or even an angular cutter on a mag drill.

I want them to be accurate so the tines will look even and straight.

I thought about clamping a fence on my welding table, having in feed and out feed roller supports, adding a 3/8 stud to my table in the two inch from bit position as an index, then just work my way down, moving the steel one increment at a time. Seems this would work with a mag drill. Would be harder on my drill press since the table is so small and sometimes rotates with a off set load.

The angle will be 84 long and depending on what I can find at the scrap yard, could weigh up to 100 pounds. I want it stout.

Thanks for any advice!

I haven't gone to the end of the thread yet but here is my solution:
Get a cabinet shelf drilling template, Lowes or Amazon, link attached
Get a set of transfer punches, Amazon, link attached
Scribe your line of holes
Drill the first hole, insert an alignment pin in the hole, set the template and clamp down
With the transfer punch mark the center punch for the intermediate hole
Keep moving down the line till complete.

I have the transfer punches, and use them a lot in steel fabrication to match/mate parts. I can see other uses for the jig in the future.

Here are links to what I am talking about.
file:///C:/Users/Ron87/Desktop/Neiko%2002621A%20Transfer%20Punch%20Set,%2028%20Piece%20_%20Heat%20Treated%20Alloy%20Steel%20_%203_32_%20-%201_2_%20-%20Hand%20Tool%20Transfer%20Punches%20-%20AmazonSmile.html

file:///C:/Users/Ron87/Desktop/KREG%20KMA3200%20Shelf%20Pin%20Drilling%20Jig%20-%20-%20AmazonSmile.html

I would consider the cost as value added now and in the future.

I even bought the next up size punches up to 1". They are in 1/64th increments so a snug fit is easy.

Ron
 
   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #34  
There will be a multiple of ways to mark and drill your iron. Pick one that you are comfortable with.

Set a drill press vice on the table and move your iron through it. It will give a straight line of holes. You still have to mark the hole spacing. A simple jig with a hole for a center punch and bolt to fit in the just drilled hole would make that a simple job.

Hole saw might also work??? Lots of cutting oil, good quality bit and slow feed rate should be the fastest way to do the job.
 
   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #35  
Old school works every time...... Scribe layout line with ruler on 2 inch centers and center punch and then drill pilot hole (1/8 inch) and then come back with larger bit.... Always found layout and center punch to be utmost for accuracy... IF you use a drill press and your work is long bar stock make/find/buy support for end of stock so "work" rests evenly on drill press platform..... Funny how something taught to me in junior high school (vocational - 8th grade) metal shop still works for me 60 years later....

Quality drill bits (expensive) help.... Try to avoid Chinese *****...

Dale
 
   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #36  
Old school works every time...... Scribe layout line with ruler on 2 inch centers and center punch and then drill pilot hole (1/8 inch) and then come back with larger bit.... Always found layout and center punch to be utmost for accuracy... IF you use a drill press and your work is long bar stock make/find/buy support for end of stock so "work" rests evenly on drill press platform..... Funny how something taught to me in junior high school (vocational - 8th grade) metal shop still works for me 60 years later....

Quality drill bits (expensive) help.... Try to avoid Chinese *****...

Dale

I still remember my wood work teacher way back then also.

On using a hand saw for cross cutting after scribing the cut line in pencil...”Cut in the WASTE wood, saving half the line....”

If you didn’t pay attention he’d just as soon smack you with a hunk of lumber than look at you. Never get away with that these days.
 
   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #37  
Yeah.... Metal shop teacher in J.H. was Mr Zikos... Wood shop teacher was Mr Stone... That changed when I went to high school though.... Funny how certain teacher made impression on you, can't remember a single English or History or Government teacher.... High school Auto shop teacher was Mr Kirkpatrick

Dale
 
   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #38  
I like the peg board also but I would use a Vex bit for the pilot hole.

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   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #39  
The OP is only drilling 3/8” holes. I’d forego the pilot holes. Too time consuming. He has a drill press IIRC so my vote would be center punch and drill once (with adequate coolant.)

Being old and retired doesn’t necessarily mean I have a lot of patience.
 
   / Drilling multiple holes in a line. #40  
The OP is only drilling 3/8” holes. I’d forego the pilot holes. Too time consuming. He has a drill press IIRC so my vote would be center punch and drill once (with adequate coolant.)

Being old and retired doesn’t necessarily mean I have a lot of patience.
Agreed. I would not pilot in this case.
 

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