notmyfault
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I have a compact tractor 4310. Would an 8a backhoe fit? Thanks.:confused2:
Does an 8a backhoe fit a 4310 compact tractor?
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It might... The 8A/8B will work with the 430 FEL. The key is whether the bolt pattern on the 4310 frame matches the bolt pattern for the 8A attachment hardware and the total distance (length) of the tractor frame from the loader mounts to the pto mounts is the same length as the distance from the front mount to the rear mount on the hoe frame.
If you can measure the weldment plates from the 8A hoe that fit under the base pedastal attachments for the 430 FEL as well as the 2 rear mounting brackets that bolt to each side of the transaxle housing adjacent to the PTO shaft - and the length of the hoe frame - you'll know.
AKfish
Not without modifying it significantly.
However, I think the longer ladder type backhoe frame (8a) is easier on the tractor than the shorter one intended for 4x10 series. The longer frame distributes the loading better. There is a frame reinforcement pan they'd like to sell you with the newer one, too. It goes from rear end up to front subframe, but it looks more like $500+ skid plate to me. Not much good in torsion. There have been plenty of tractors broken in two with the shorter, newer backhoes.
I've got a 4410 with an 8a on it. The ladder frame was extended about 20 in and I fabricated tractor reinforcements with hook/latch plates to engage cross bar on this extended ladder frame. The front engagement area is below bellhousing. Reinforcements are bolted to front engine subframe, bellhousing below loader mounts points, and back beneath trans.
At the rear, I added 3/4" plate drop ears to the bottom of ROPS/sway control plate clamped on axle. I then used double shear pockets at the outside of backhoe frame to pin to drop ears.
To install you back tractor over subframe. Front bar engages in hook plates. Hook up hoses and lift rear of backhoe frame w/ stabilizers and engage rear pins.
I do not recommend using the three point connections at the rear end as opposed to drop ears or something else. That rear axle housing is aluminum and you don't want to break those off. That has apparently been a problem for some, too.
I'll post some pictures if you'd like.
However, I think the longer ladder type backhoe frame (8a) is easier on the tractor than the shorter one intended for 4x10 series. The longer frame distributes the loading better. There is a frame reinforcement pan they'd like to sell you with the newer one, too. It goes from rear end up to front subframe, but it looks more like $500+ skid plate to me. Not much good in torsion. There have been plenty of tractors broken in two with the shorter, newer backhoes.
I've got a 4410 with an 8a on it. The ladder frame was extended about 20 in and I fabricated tractor reinforcements with hook/latch plates to engage cross bar on this extended ladder frame. The front engagement area is below bellhousing. Reinforcements are bolted to front engine subframe, bellhousing below loader mounts points, and back beneath trans.
At the rear, I added 3/4" plate drop ears to the bottom of ROPS/sway control plate clamped on axle. I then used double shear pockets at the outside of backhoe frame to pin to drop ears.
To install you back tractor over subframe. Front bar engages in hook plates. Hook up hoses and lift rear of backhoe frame w/ stabilizers and engage rear pins.
I do not recommend using the three point connections at the rear end as opposed to drop ears or something else. That rear axle housing is aluminum and you don't want to break those off. That has apparently been a problem for some, too.
I'll post some pictures if you'd like.
