Does a B3030HSDCC Have Wires in Glass?

[My Hoe]

Hi all,

I am looking at a B3030HSDC that I'm told is a B3030HSDCC, the first "C" standing for "Cold" as in "Cold Cab."

But I don't think it is--I think it's a B3030HSDC that someone added the REAR wiper kit to, but that there is ZERO provision for rear or side defrost.

However, when I asked the dealer "How does the rear defrost work?" I was told:

"I believe you just aim the vents back, and toward the sides, as you need them, like when you change the directions of the HVAC vents inside your car."

That didn't sound right to me, but the tractor has a lot going for it so, like Fox Mulder on The X-Files, I wanted to believe that I was really looking at a B3030HSDCC, as it DOES have the rear wiper and it DOES have the suspension seat. But no DEFROST wires in the glass, anywhere, that I could see.

But I was told by another dealer who I TRULY BELIEVE knows what they're talking about, that the B3030HSDCC HAD the following equipment:

1. Defrost wires IN THE SIDE Glass.
2. Defrost wires in the REAR Glass
3. A rear wiper.
4. A 60 amp alternator (as opposed to, what, a 45? Or a 15amp?)
5. A suspension seat.

Can anyone WHO OWNS ONE (an old-style B3030HSDCC--NOT the new B3000CC, confirm/deny if there are DEFROST WIRES in EITHER the rear and side glass? In fact, if you know for certain, please comment on questions 1-5, above. Thank you!

And by "side glass" I'm assuming they mean the doors...., right?

And is there a standard, "hot air blast and A/C-dried FRONT defogger, like in an automobile?

Here's the weirdest part:

The newer, smaller B3000 "Cabbed" series DOES offer a B3000HSDCC option. If you go to this pdf., http://www.kubota.com/product/B3000/pdf/b3000_features.pdf on Kubota's official site, and scroll down to page 3 out of 3, it DOES MENTION "REAR DEFOGGER," but no pics (instead it says "Under Construction") and there's NO mention of side-glass defoggers.

It DOES say, however, that the B3000HSDCC has:

A 60amp alternator
A "rear defogger"
A "parallel link suspension seat"


Now, weirder still is that Kubota's site STILL lists the B2630 and B3030, when different dealers have told me, alternatively:
a) Kubota is no longer building the B3030HSD
b) Kubota is going to start building the B3030HSD again in late Dec., 2011. (I know, it doesn't seem to have happened, huh?)

But when you go to the B3030HSD's "Features" pdf., there is ZERO mention of
a "CC" option.

See for yourself: http://www.kubota.com/product/B2630/pdf/b30_series_others.pdf

And the "old" B3030HSD's pdf is only two pages, not three, and I didn't even see a mention of a 60 amp. alternator, or even a REAR WIPER. Maybe these features were on page 3, like they are for the B3000HSDCC, and it's just an I.T. problem? Or, since Kubota seems to be moving to the newer B-series, maybe they just stopped offering a true B3030HSDCC?

So....DID they ever build a B3030HSDCC?

And if so, please address questions 1-5, above.

And if so, if you knew what years they were available, (or when you got yours) I would appreciate knowing that info.

If an owner of one, or anyone on here, has, or can link me to pics OR video of B3030HSDCC, with the wires in the windows, 60 amp. alternator, suspension seat, rear wiper, etc..., it would really help me out.

Thank you most kindly.

My Hoe

 

[radair]

I Googled for B3030HSDCC and found this picture: B3030HSDCC side view - TractorByNet.com Photo Gallery

Looks to me that there are rear defroster wires in that glass.

You specifically did not want info on the B3000HSDCC but I will tell you there are no defroster wires in any side glass. Without trying to sound like a wise guy, if you had written half as much and searched a bit more I think some of your questions would have been answered.

 

[AStanton]

I've got a B3030 with a winter cab that is the Real McCoy. Attached are pics of the rear-window defrost button and pic showing wires in glass. The defrost button is mounted by the window wash fluid reservoir. And yes, it does have a rear wiper. Sounds to me like someone is tryin to do the Okie Dokie on you.

 

[Ductape]

The tractor you are looking at is an HSDC, not HSDCC.

 

[My Hoe]

I Googled for B3030HSDCC and found this picture: B3030HSDCC side view - TractorByNet.com Photo Gallery

Looks to me that there are rear defroster wires in that glass.

You specifically did not want info on the B3000HSDCC but I will tell you there are no defroster wires in any side glass. Without trying to sound like a wise guy, if you had written half as much and searched a bit more I think some of your questions would have been answered.

radair,

I don't take it that you're "...trying to sound like as wise guy." I take it constructively, and I do apologize--I don't enjoy typing--it actually aggravates one of three injuries I'm trying to heal.

Without opening up a bottle of "whine," (more than I already just did, above) I'll just say that I've suffered some (serious) personal loses in the last couple weeks, coupled with not having slept in two-three days. I think those factors, plus the fact that I've been told so many conflicting things by a number of dealers, had me beginning to think the B3030HSDCC was a Unicorn. (Ha--and now that they seem to be out of production, I guess that's not too bad a description). I even put a small ($250.) REFUNDABLE deposit on this B3030HSDC, as I was told it was the B3030HSDCC, this morning, because I didn't want it to "get away."

You are 100% correct, radair--I probably could have used Google "Images" and found what you found. I will try to keep that in mind, in future.

Sorry to burden everyone. Poor judgment, brought on by the factors I mentioned, and the "joy" of dealing with salespeople that know less than even me, in some respects, about these machines, and certainly less than you guys that stepped up, got the better of me. Thank you for setting me straight.
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I've got a B3030 with a winter cab that is the Real McCoy. Attached are pics of the rear-window defrost button and pic showing wires in glass. The defrost button is mounted by the window wash fluid reservoir. And yes, it does have a rear wiper. Sounds to me like someone is tryin to do the Okie Dokie on you.

AStanton,

Actually, I believe the salesperson I'm dealing with does not know, himself, that he does NOT have a B3030HSDCC. But as you allude to, one never knows--perhaps he's just putting on a "Columbo Act" and hoping I'll bite--however, the fact that he refused, three times, last week, to take a deposit, saying he'd hold it merely on a "gentleman's agreement, " until I could come see it, seems like he's honest, but just as confused as I was. Either way, I am glad that you guys saved me a 4 hour drive (round trip) for nothing!

Your tractor looks super-clean, btw!

Have you experienced any of the vibration issues, at near PTO-speeds, that are rumored to plague some (but not all?) of the new B3000's? I certainly hope not, and I only ask because of some reports I've read that even some B3030's suffered from this, and since you own one, I thought I'd ask. Hopefully the answer is "No way!" :thumbsup:

Also, if you don't mind me asking, what year was your tractor put into service? I'm just trying to get an idea of how many of these might be still knocking around somewhere--thanks.

Oh--AStanton--if your B3030HSDCC has the "suspension seat," was that standard equipment, as well, or an option?

Thanks for setting me straight.
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The tractor you are looking at is an HSDC, not HSDCC.

So few words, but oh so true.

Does anyone think the dealership added the rear wiper kit, or was that standard on NON-"Cold Cab," B3030HSDC's--if anyone knows? Just curious, so please, no one go to any further effort on my part, because I am no longer interested in the machine I thought was "the Real McCoy," as AStanton so aptly put it.

I will wait, and hopefully find the Real McCoy, myself.

So, I take it the consensus is that there was NEVER a B3030HSDCC with defrost wires in the side glass, even as an option, huh? I only ask because the same dealer who told me about the rear defrost wires that ARE supposed to be there, said he believed they were in the side glass, which they obviously are not, in the pictures provided here. He also said the Grand L's had them in the side glass, as well.

Does anyone know that side glass defrost was an option on these machines?

Just curious--AStanton and any other owners--if you do snow blow, plow, etc..., do you ever have any issues with fogged-up side glass?


Thank you all, kindly, for putting me out of my misery, on this one.

My Hoe

 

[Ductape]

I think some of the confusion comes from the changes Kubota made when they changed the tractor to the 3000. They removed most of the 'deluxe' features that made the 3030 (and the 2630) the premium models.

ALL B3030s had suspension seats.... the 'standard' B3000 does not.

Rear wipers were an option on all B3030HSDCs, and standard on the HSDCCs. My local dealer frequently had HSDCs on the lot with the rear wipers added, as well as the optional rear work lights. My B3030HSDC also has a rear wiper (and rear work lights) that I added myself, by purchasing the factory kit.

B3030s never had the defrost wires in the door, nor small rear side windows...... not even as an option. The Grand L cabs do have them in the smal rear side windows.

The two real differences that give away whether you are looking at a B3030 HSDCC instead of a B3030 HSDC are the rear window defogger, and the 60 amp alternator instead of the 40. All other options were available on the HSDC.

Of course now, the B3000HSDC is stripped down, and only the B3000HSDCC has the deluxe options, such as front work lights, suspended seat, rear wiper, deluxe three point hitch, etc, etc.

Clear as mud ?

No harm in settling for the HSDC..... since its only the rear glass with the defogger.

Window fogging does happen occaisionally. No different than in a car, if your clothes are wet, or you are sweaty.... you will get more fogging. Get the tractor up to temp so that there is warm air coming out the vents, and click on the A/C (with the heat on) and you won't have any problems.

 

[AStanton]

My,
I've been happy with the performance of my B3030. I haven't had any issues with the cab fogging. In fact, the cab is so toasty, that most times in the winter, I run the machine with the side windows opens and the fan for the heat off. I just listed a detailed review for this machine on this web site. Check it out.
Remember, it's not the end of the world, if you make a bad purchase. You trade it in and move on. It's only money.

 

[AStanton]

My,
Just checked Flea Bay. They got a 09 Winter Cab B3030 listed for $19,900 with 173 hours in PA. Tell him that if he can deliver it to you for $18,000, you'll take it.