Does a 1610d have a thermostat?

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jaybird4

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Yanmar 1610d
After 30 minutes of finish mowing my 1610d can only reach a temp of 160 degrees on a 90 degree day. I measured the coolant temp with a meat thermometed immediately after switching it off with no cool down period. My temp gauge is almost touching the cold mark.. Is it ok to operate a diesel at such low temps? Does a 1610d have a thermostat? Please help. Bob
 
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I have owned both the 1601 and 1610 tractors (several) and there has never been a thermostat in those engines (3T75U). I would think that your tractor is operating and cooling at it's optimum.

My tractors operate at the cold mark until I engage heavy box blade or bush hog duty...and then just at the 1/4 mark, or slightly above. I don't think you have a thing to worry about.

Mark
 
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Mark777, Thanks for the reply. You have been very helpful with your replys. I work at a Technical College that trains technicians for Catepillar dealerships in NC and SC. The instructors told me today that a diesel engine should run at 180-190 degrees F, if lower sulphuric acid will form in the engine and cause engine damage. What say ye? Thanks.. Bob
 
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This sounds like deja vu, all over again. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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Bob,

I agree with your instructors that the temperature should run around 190° as a general rule. It would seem that the mix of sulfur and water cause the sulfuric acid that can, and will eventually strip the engines internal lubricants and eventually cause excessive wear and damage. The higher heat range tends to burn off the H2O and keep that process in check.

IMHO Yanmar, and many other Japanese tractor engineers, have overcome that problem by simply stepping up the routine maintenance of fuel, oil, fluids and filters ranging from 50 - 100 hours, OR when visible debris is evident in the tank and fuel bowl. This, and a proven Cetane booster all but eliminates the H2O/Sulfur=Sulfuric Acid problem. It is my understanding that 50% of service calls are fuel contamination related in the Tractor, marine and stationary diesel engine service calls. It only takes 0.5% saturation of water and sulfur to produce sulfuric acid at the point of ignition....but it may take several weeks or months to produce the correct circumstances that a filter change and Cetane booster eliminate.

That's why many "Old Timers" keep their tank topped off to avoid condensation, routinely drain the water separators and change fuel filters when they look just a little cloudy. I have a 1610D and 1601D, the '10 has 620 hours and the '01 has nearly 1800 hours. Both tractors have identical engines yet the 1601D runs and operates flawlessly with close to three times the hours. The 1610D has been plagued with problems....I am convinced that the difference between both tractors is one has been rigidly maintained and the other badly service neglected.

Mark
 
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Mark777, All I can say is Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!
Bob
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( It would seem that the mix of sulfur and water cause the sulfuric acid that can, and will eventually strip the engines internal lubricants and eventually cause excessive wear and damage. -Mark )</font>

It will be interesting to see if ULSD will allow ordinary motor oils to be used in diesels. Absent the sulphur, it seems to me that the factor dictating frequency of oil change will be only the dust that goes past the air cleaner and rings. Or possibly dilution by unburned fuel. I think exhaustion of the additives will be less of a factor.
 

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