do it yourself dump utility trailer...

3RRL · May 16, 2006

Rob,
That is a cool little trailer. I always wanted one like that for the ATV. Did you buy it or make it yourself?

3RRL · May 16, 2006

Rob,
That is a cool little trailer. I always wanted one like that for the ATV. Did you buy it or make it yourself?

RobJ · May 16, 2006

Thanks!!! Fun to make to and pretty simple. Homemade about like everything else(good or bad). You might have caught the sled style/tractor/atv/everything trailer I posted about that I just finished. So I sort of have trailer on the brain. That and some 12ga 1x2 rec tubing I had in the garage. I wanted to try a little tilt/dump style so I check out the ones at HD. Hard to see the angles on the dump(angles when designing that is) but it works fine. Attached is my previous ATV trailer, wood but lasted about 11 years. The bottom went out and I had the steel for a new one. The axles and wheel are the hardest thing if you ever make one. The little HF dolly wheel won't hold up for squat. On the attached pic you can see the solid tires. Them and the bearing lasted the longest but when we hauled some firewood they basically failed. Somewhere along the line I ended up with some goat cart front wheels, no bearings, just grease the shaft. We'll see how they hold up, I just have to remember the grease. Oh and now you can see why the axle on the new trailer is red.. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

RobJ · May 16, 2006

Thanks!!! Fun to make to and pretty simple. Homemade about like everything else(good or bad). You might have caught the sled style/tractor/atv/everything trailer I posted about that I just finished. So I sort of have trailer on the brain. That and some 12ga 1x2 rec tubing I had in the garage. I wanted to try a little tilt/dump style so I check out the ones at HD. Hard to see the angles on the dump(angles when designing that is) but it works fine. Attached is my previous ATV trailer, wood but lasted about 11 years. The bottom went out and I had the steel for a new one. The axles and wheel are the hardest thing if you ever make one. The little HF dolly wheel won't hold up for squat. On the attached pic you can see the solid tires. Them and the bearing lasted the longest but when we hauled some firewood they basically failed. Somewhere along the line I ended up with some goat cart front wheels, no bearings, just grease the shaft. We'll see how they hold up, I just have to remember the grease. Oh and now you can see why the axle on the new trailer is red.. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

cleatus · May 16, 2006

RobJ, Here,s my first little dump i built.

cleatus · May 16, 2006

RobJ, Here,s my first little dump i built.

cleatus · May 16, 2006

Before paint and dumped.

cleatus · May 16, 2006

Before paint and dumped.

RobJ · May 17, 2006

( RobJ, Here,s my first little dump i built. )

Sweet, you skipped the light duty stuff and went with the heavy. My first little red one was designed to be pulled behind a 3-wheeler. You have the nicer wheels and a stronger axle. That'll be around for a while!

RobJ · May 17, 2006

( RobJ, Here,s my first little dump i built. )

Sweet, you skipped the light duty stuff and went with the heavy. My first little red one was designed to be pulled behind a 3-wheeler. You have the nicer wheels and a stronger axle. That'll be around for a while!

Rgillard · May 24, 2006

Guys,

I have been in the process of building a small trailer with a hydraulic tipping ram. I have just acquired a single and a double acting hydraulic ram for nothing. I was hoping on maybe using a power steering pump from a car which would reduce cost.doesn't really justify itself to spend all that money. Has anyone done this before. Also would a 4 port 3 position control valve be hard to locate on old machinery. Finally would you find pressure relief valves on old machinery too and if anyone could pinpoint particular machines I would really appreciate it. Any suggestions would be muchly appreciated.

Regards ,
Ronan

Rgillard · May 24, 2006

Guys,

I have been in the process of building a small trailer with a hydraulic tipping ram. I have just acquired a single and a double acting hydraulic ram for nothing. I was hoping on maybe using a power steering pump from a car which would reduce cost.doesn't really justify itself to spend all that money. Has anyone done this before. Also would a 4 port 3 position control valve be hard to locate on old machinery. Finally would you find pressure relief valves on old machinery too and if anyone could pinpoint particular machines I would really appreciate it. Any suggestions would be muchly appreciated.

Regards ,
Ronan

KYErik · May 25, 2006

Ronan,

Yes, automotive power steering pumps work well as hydraulic pumps. I have been using one on my 63 year old Case tractor (did not originally come with hydraulics)- its done well for 4 years. I am using a saginaw type pump with integrated 1 quart reservoir- the type that was put on 75-85 chevy trucks. This units have a built in relief valve (about 1200 psi). You will need to extend the reservior so that you don't run out of fluid- I am using a 1 gallon extention- I found a plastic juice jug that had a neck the same size as the filler neck on the pump and then joined the two with a neoprene band (the type that plumbers use to attach and seal 2 blunt ends of pipe). You put a small hole in the bottom of the upside down plastic jug and you now have a 1.25 gallon reservior on your pump (this will be plenty of capcity once you get both ends of your hydraulic cylinders full of oil). And if the jug is clear like mine- you have the added benifit of always knowing how much hydraulic oil is remaining /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
As for finding the 3 position valve at a salvage yard- yes I paid $45 for a double valve with open center. It supposedly came off a road paving machine, but the salvage yard just had a pile of them that they had already removed. Be careful that you avoid the closed center valves if they just have a big a pile of valves.

KYErik · May 25, 2006

Ronan,

Yes, automotive power steering pumps work well as hydraulic pumps. I have been using one on my 63 year old Case tractor (did not originally come with hydraulics)- its done well for 4 years. I am using a saginaw type pump with integrated 1 quart reservoir- the type that was put on 75-85 chevy trucks. This units have a built in relief valve (about 1200 psi). You will need to extend the reservior so that you don't run out of fluid- I am using a 1 gallon extention- I found a plastic juice jug that had a neck the same size as the filler neck on the pump and then joined the two with a neoprene band (the type that plumbers use to attach and seal 2 blunt ends of pipe). You put a small hole in the bottom of the upside down plastic jug and you now have a 1.25 gallon reservior on your pump (this will be plenty of capcity once you get both ends of your hydraulic cylinders full of oil). And if the jug is clear like mine- you have the added benifit of always knowing how much hydraulic oil is remaining /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
As for finding the 3 position valve at a salvage yard- yes I paid $45 for a double valve with open center. It supposedly came off a road paving machine, but the salvage yard just had a pile of them that they had already removed. Be careful that you avoid the closed center valves if they just have a big a pile of valves.

cleatus · May 30, 2006

Just wanted to prove it worked before I tore it apart. The hinge support i-beam was tore loose from frame runner while trying to raise. No big deal just unload by hand. (dam the luck) repossission bed and reweld with gussets.

cleatus · May 30, 2006

Just wanted to prove it worked before I tore it apart. The hinge support i-beam was tore loose from frame runner while trying to raise. No big deal just unload by hand. (dam the luck) repossission bed and reweld with gussets.