DK55 TLB??

[deputyrpa]

I have the opportunity to buy a consignment 2005 DK55 with ~140 hrs., Woods QC loader and 9000 backhoe for $27K. It's bigger than I was looking for (40-45 HP). I could only come up with $25K, but that offer was refused. The question is....is it worth the extra financial stretch at that price (I'd be financing $22k @4.65 % net)? Or would it be wiser to purchase a new less-espensive 40-45 hp TLB (with R-1s instead) for more money but at a lower interest rate? Thanks for the help.

 

[wallace]

I have a 2006 DK 45S rops with a Kioti KL451 self leveling loader.
Tractor has loaded (rimguard) R 4 tires
Has Aprox 180 hours
Remainder of factory warranty
I will put a brand new Woods 90X on it.
All for your $25K

If this doesn't work for you I think I would be looking at a smaller one because the price really jumps.
And the low interest rates will help out also.

 

[BTI]

I would go with the 45 Rick is offering, if you don't need the extra 10 hp.
On tlb's you seldom need the HP, just the hydraulics.
The loader lift is virtually identical on the 45 and 55
Same backhoe-2k cheaper.
It would be an easy decision for me.

Beside that I REALLY like the 45S especially with R-4's

BTI

 

[mark.r]

I would have to go with Rick's deal as well . . . based on your sitution. I have a DK45SE and would love to have larger tractor w/ cab as we move into more ag related practices. But that said, and as BTI said, I can't see you needing the addition HP or you would have of stated that up front. I moved 8 1500-1700lbs round bales with my DK last night and the only problem is that I lacked the rear weight bias. Hydraulics and horsepower were NOT and issue.

 

[deputyrpa]

Thanks for the help. I talked to Rick earlier, and he was a great help too. As my friend says, it's no wonder he sells alot of tractors....he tries!!

As some backround, my wife and I bought a 400 acre farm two years ago. I lease it to my neighbor for his dairy operation, who runs some big 4x4s to deal with the nasty clay and speed up the job. I help out, and will have to do so more since his dad has health problems. His dad's a tough old coot, but he is 86 after all!! Simply put, his success is my success, and I admire him and his profession greatly!!

I maintain the roads on both of our properties (~800 acres), maintain logging trails, mow pasture that our horses don't chew, rake, ted and shuttle hay, equipment & implements. Snowplowing is the big winter sport here, and I also take care of our neighbors. I'm also building our log house, and am almost finished with it and the grounds. Aside from the foundation and raised septic (425yds), I continue to do all with my overworked Jinma 284. I don't care what anyone says...that $5500 was the best investment I ever made! I was never at a loss for horsepower, just weight and hydraulics...oh...and a backhoe. I also realized suddenly, that I'm at a loss for safety, as machines have their limits and I reached it.

I figured a 40-45 hp Kioti TLB, with their impressive mass and hydraulic power, would do the trick for both tip-toeing around the house, and then allow me to brushog faster, remove those ninja boulders, install the many culverts needed for the road and trail crossings of the 4 streams and springs, grade the roads and trails (clay + slopes = ruts) and re-establish the drainage in the fields. After I saw the DK55, I though maybe...just maybe, I could pinch hit with the baling and shuttle some round bales to his barns. I guess either the 45 or 55 will do everything adequately, but neither is a farm unit. I know I can't get it all, but I'll try excrutiatingly hard to!

At this point, I'm still debating between the two. It's gonna be tougher than I thought. It's probably because I was raised by a psychologist mom, and I'm a professional Analyst. Feel free to help some more....I'm actually sane....

 

[Oleozz]

Bought my 45 from R Wallace back in 06 and so far, with 330 hrs., it has been pretty much trouble free. The tractor he is offering is about as new as you can get without being brand new.

 

[IXLR8]

Thanks for the help. I talked to Rick earlier, and he was a great help too. As my friend says, it's no wonder he sells alot of tractors....he tries!!

Feel free to help some more....I'm actually sane....

Why don't you come to Ricks Picnic on the 7th... try the machines out then! I am sure we will have you driving away with tractor in tow!
How is that for help??

 

[deputyrpa]

I think I might need a bigger truck......

 

[mark.r]

Why don't you come to Ricks Picnic on the 7th... try the machines out then! I am sure we will have you driving away with tractor in tow!
How is that for help??

I think you should at least come down and have a look on the 7th. I'd also say with all you described you need a BIGGER tractor!!! But I DO understand, you have to go with what the wallet allows. I think a 45hp will do most of what you want. It may not be the BEST tool for all scenarios but it will do most of what you listed. Come on down on the 7th.

 

[JoelD]

I'm not an analyst but as a CPA I also have a habit of over analyzing most things (wife gets mad when I ask her to "tie-out" the bank statements or "let me see the invoice before you vouch for payment").. To me, 45 HP is a lot of HP for a diesel tractor. MY dozer is at 30 HP and will move almost anything. Another thing you must always consider is breakage, when one of these machines breaks it can be financially painful. I think the 2006 has the 4 year warranty?? If so, that is a huge selling point. Nothing worse than purchasing a nice used machine for good money and then needing to immediately dump another $5K into it. If the machine will pick up the heaviest thing you are likely to run into, then I would think the 45 would be good to go.

 

[deputyrpa]

Excellent points Joel...thanks. You're correct about HP - I pull a 6' heavy duty boxblade full of clay with my little Jinma - albiet slowly. I only have issue with the difference in horsepower when it comes to either running or struggling with a farm implement with the pto. A ****-spreader comes to mind....just....because.....that's an entry-level junior farmer duty.....

And that reminds me of another question. How harsh is the engagement of the pto? I'm used to feathering the engagement with clutches....not pushing a button. I'm still thinking of that **** spreader, wouldn't you know....

The DK55 has only a few months left on a 3-year warranty, yet the DK45 must have at least 2 years left. That could tip the scales there!

Hmmmm....your comments focused on numbers.....

 

[deputyrpa]

Uh oh....did I get into ******* trouble?

 

[JoelD]

Another point to consider is dealer. There is inherent value in dealing with Rick. If you can, come to the cookout on the 7th. I guarantee there will be no pressure, just a great opportunity to see and touch the various machines and talk with others who own. This is a big purchase, the more information the better.

Joel

 

[deputyrpa]

I'd like to be able to make it, but my father is coming up from Texas next week, and I'm not sure of his schedule for visiting us. We'll see....

 

[Oleozz]

About your pto question, You just have to make sure that your engine speed is way down before pushing the pto button. If not you will break a shear pin, which I have done about three times now.

 

[mark.r]

I'd like to be able to make it, but my father is coming up from Texas next week, and I'm not sure of his schedule for visiting us. We'll see....

Bring him on down for some food, fun, and heavy equipment. Who doesn't like that!

 

[deputyrpa]

My dad retired (semi) from the commercial construction business after 63 years. "Little tractors" don't impress him! Anyway, he's actually going to be at the farm tomorrow, and will be staying for a few days. I think I'm free for the weekend....

I'm almost ready to pull the trigger. Cleared it with the wife....but at a cost - window treatments. Oh woe is me, how I doth suffer!

I've been most recently tossing around the differences between the 45S vs. the 45 SE HST. For me, bigger and heavier is better, but on balance, the majority of my work will be clearing trails, grading roads, hoeing, and pasture mowing. About 1/3 will be traditional farming, such as planting, raking, tedding, baling, shuttling round bales (one on each end). Probably no plowing or mowing, but maybe discing. It's a tough choice between the two, giben teh 45SE apppears to be a smaller machine. Any thoughts??

 

[rvaitor]

My dad retired (semi) from the commercial construction business after 63 years. "Little tractors" don't impress him! Anyway, he's actually going to be at the farm tomorrow, and will be staying for a few days. I think I'm free for the weekend....

I'm almost ready to pull the trigger. Cleared it with the wife....but at a cost - window treatments. Oh woe is me, how I doth suffer!

I've been most recently tossing around the differences between the 45S vs. the 45 SE HST. For me, bigger and heavier is better, but on balance, the majority of my work will be clearing trails, grading roads, hoeing, and pasture mowing. About 1/3 will be traditional farming, such as planting, raking, tedding, baling, shuttling round bales (one on each end). Probably no plowing or mowing, but maybe discing. It's a tough choice between the two, giben teh 45SE apppears to be a smaller machine. Any thoughts??

Having bought a DK55 a couple of months prior to the warranty expiring, I would not have a problem with that especially if I was gaining on the equipment end(bhoe). As they say you can do a small job with a big tractor but it's harder to do a big job with small one. Your list of tasks indicates bigger would be better.

The biggest problem with used tractors is finding one - 120 hours, I wouldn't let it get away.

 

[deputyrpa]

Thanks, rvaitor. The DK55 was attractive at $25k, but less so at $27k when a new and better equipped DK45 can be had. I was prepared to buy it. Hmmmm.....I forgot to ask Rick for a price on a new DK55... The choice between a DK55 and a DK45 would be easier (just money - same transmission) than the one I'm having between a DK45S and a DK45SE HST. I'm bugging Rick daily, and he's helping me as much as possible. It appears that the DK45S is more of a substantial unit, and closer in ability to the DK55. The DK45SE just seems ...well... more "compact, and the 401 loader appears lighter duty (relatiely speaking, of course). Yet, the idea of a HST is really making it hard decision. I'm sure several here can help me out.... Thanks.

 

[mark.r]

Thanks, rvaitor. The DK55 was attractive at $25k, but less so at $27k when a new and better equipped DK45 can be had. I was prepared to buy it. Hmmmm.....I forgot to ask Rick for a price on a new DK55... The choice between a DK55 and a DK45 would be easier (just money - same transmission) than the one I'm having between a DK45S and a DK45SE HST. I'm bugging Rick daily, and he's helping me as much as possible. It appears that the DK45S is more of a substantial unit, and closer in ability to the DK55. The DK45SE just seems ...well... more "compact, and the 401 loader appears lighter duty (relatiely speaking, of course). Yet, the idea of a HST is really making it hard decision. I'm sure several here can help me out.... Thanks.

I don't know, I think maybe you summed it up pretty well. I think the 45s is a bit larger size wise as it was based off the older design . . . at least that is what someone once posted here. Yes, the loader maybe slight more substantial but the KL401 is not slouch in relation to the size of a 45 hp tractor. I use my 45SE for moving round bales, mowing, etc. and it does a great job.