Dk 40 se hst purchase

[murphy1244]

Exactly the same as the FEL. For the remote, there was a C and D position and beyond the D (if memory serves, but whatever was down) it went into float. As for why you want float in remotes, I think I actually started a thread way back asking the same thing. Some people pointed to implements that could be used for it, but the one answer that makes sense to me (and the reason it's important to Brian (MtnViewRanch) is for TNT. It's a lot easier to hook up the top link if you can put that remote in the float position, otherwise you're running back and forth trying to get it adjusted perfectly.

Ken, If you can I would like the part number of that valve.and how does it stay there?

 

[kiotiken]

The one I just had installed on the DK45 does not have float. I assumed it was going to since the last one did, but doesn't seem to. As for the remote on the CK, I don't have the tractor anymore and I don't think I kept any of the paperwork either.

I'm sure it was and OEM Kioti part since the sticker that was added beside the seat matched the original A - B sticker. The only difference was that the handle was grey, not orange and said it had a float position. To be honest, I never even tried it since I don't have a TNT kit and didn't even have an implement other than my BH that needed hydraulics at the time (I was planning ahead for a snowblower).

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I am still confused about float on rear remotes. How do you set the float position and what does it do? I understand and use float on my FEL.

To start with, you would just push the lever further forward-down towards the floor and it will detent in just as the loader valve does.

Some people use it so that they can pull their top link into place when hitching up. Pretty hard to do that if you happen to use a flow restrictor though. Others use it when mowing with a 3pt mower, either the articulated center mount on the mower is not enough or they don't have the flexable point on their mower at all.

Many people are learning that there CAN be many places when there is a huge benefit to have the 3pt implement be able to float up and down side ways, not only up and down with the 3pt hitch draft arms. This way the implement is free to float in all directions as you go over the ground.

 

[IslandTractor]

To start with, you would just push the lever further forward-down towards the floor and it will detent in just as the loader valve does.

Some people use it so that they can pull their top link into place when hitching up. Pretty hard to do that if you happen to use a flow restrictor though. Others use it when mowing with a 3pt mower, either the articulated center mount on the mower is not enough or they don't have the flexable point on their mower at all.

Many people are learning that there CAN be many places when there is a huge benefit to have the 3pt implement be able to float up and down side ways, not only up and down with the 3pt hitch draft arms. This way the implement is free to float in all directions as you go over the ground.

The 3PT normally allows float up because it does not apply down pressure. Side to side on my Kioti rig is achieved by selecting the long oblong rather than round hole for the side link pin. Just not clear what the advantage is for the DK.

 

[murphy1244]

Just got off the phone with my Service Department, There is no float on a factory remote valve and if you say there is they would like to know the part number cause its not in the book.

 

[kiotiken]

The 3PT normally allows float up because it does not apply down pressure. Side to side on my Kioti rig is achieved by selecting the long oblong rather than round hole for the side link pin. Just not clear what the advantage is for the DK.

The 3 point will move up and down with terrain, but a top link in float will allow the implement to change angles. Not sure what good that is, but there is a bit of a distinction.

Just got off the phone with my Service Department, There is no float on a factory remote valve and if you say there is they would like to know the part number cause its not in the book.

They may be right for a DK, but not for a CK. Mine was clearly labelled with a float position. I'll take a look to see if the paperwork is still in the tractor file, but I don't think I kept it after trading the tractor.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

The 3PT normally allows float up because it does not apply down pressure. Side to side on my Kioti rig is achieved by selecting the long oblong rather than round hole for the side link pin. Just not clear what the advantage is for the DK.

Will you please post a picture of the elongated hole that you are talking about? We are not talking about the slot in the stabilizers. Unless your DK 40 is different, the lower clevis on the side link should have 3 holes in it.

Yes the 3pt floats up & down, both arms together at the same rate. By putting the side link in float mode, you now have independent float on the left & right side of the implement.
We are not talking about side to side motion between the tires, but on a box blade for instance that the right side would be able to float up and down independently of the left side.

Where would you use the float function? I use that function at the intersections of my roads, where as you go around the corner, the camber of the road changes and you want the implement to follow what the road is doing, not the tractor. TBN user Piston has used the float function while raking some rough terrain and is very happy with the results.

Those are only a couple of examples. It is not something that everyone will use, especial if you don't do any grading, but for those of us that do make use of it, it becomes indispensable.

 

[murphy1244]

Your Side link would only float on one side.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Your Side link would only float on one side.

Your hitch floats up and down. A Fit Rite side link that is put into float mode floats up and down an equal amount. If the left side needs to float down, then the 3pt will float down and the right side side link will float up. This allows for the left side of the 3pt hitch to float down.

Have you guys never looked at a 3000 or 4000 series John Deere? A Kubota M8540 or M9540? These tractors have a slot in the lower clevis that when pinned in the proper way allows for each individual draft arm to pivot up and down independently. This is not a long slot because of where it is located. By having a hydraulic link that can be put into float mode, you achieve the exact same motion capacity without having to stop and get off the tractor and move a couple of pins. It's really quite simple, and works very well in the right applications.

 

[murphy1244]

You say Pototo I say potato.

 

[k0ua]

You say Pototo I say potato.

down here its 'tater as in..."hey maw fetch me some of them thar beans and 'taters!

 

[murphy1244]

down here its 'tater as in..."hey maw fetch me some of them thar beans and 'taters!

Tater, I got to remember that thanks James.

 

[IslandTractor]

Will you please post a picture of the elongated hole that you are talking about? We are not talking about the slot in the stabilizers. Unless your DK 40 is different, the lower clevis on the side link should have 3 holes in it.

I don't think I have a photo available and the tractor is 70 miles and a boat ride away. What I was referring to is the adjustable connector between the axle and 3PT lift arm that I call the side link. It has a clevis on each end and is two parts, one fitting inside the other to connect. The parts that mate can be locked in any of about five or six adjustment holes that allow you to have the implement centered, left or right. Additionally, one of the holes is much longer than the others so when you select that hole for the pin, the implement can move left or right and is not locked in place. If I use that slot (which I do) with my bush hog, I can move the tail wheel about a foot either side of midline when it is elevated. It won't go so far as to touch the wheels but it is not locked either. I like it because when I rub up against a stump I am not twisting the 3PT as the mower can move away.

 

[kiotiken]

You guys are talking apples and bananas. LOL

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I don't think I have a photo available and the tractor is 70 miles and a boat ride away. What I was referring to is the adjustable connector between the axle and 3PT lift arm that I call the side link. It has a clevis on each end and is two parts, one fitting inside the other to connect. The parts that mate can be locked in any of about five or six adjustment holes that allow you to have the implement centered, left or right. Additionally, one of the holes is much longer than the others so when you select that hole for the pin, the implement can move left or right and is not locked in place. If I use that slot (which I do) with my bush hog, I can move the tail wheel about a foot either side of midline when it is elevated. It won't go so far as to touch the wheels but it is not locked either. I like it because when I rub up against a stump I am not twisting the 3PT as the mower can move away.

What you are talking about is an anti-sway link. Not sure how you ever thought that we were talking about a hydraulic in place of that? Although there are some farmers that do just that. The side link or lift link of a Top & Tilt kit is what I have been talking about.

 

[k0ua]

You guys are talking apples and bananas. LOL

Well. 'taters and 'maters

 

[IndyIan]

I guess the one lift arm has a flex link so it does allow some tilt floating already. With boxblade I find it a bit annoying but when plowing snow with the rear blade it keeps the blade in contact better with the driveway. I can see with a land plane how a float option is needed with hydraulic tilting, but if we adjust the flexible lift arm correctly then the manual tilt with the flexible link is okay for the homeowners here.

 

[pmaintman]

Wow in 6 pages of comments you guys have really gotten off topic. Jhrod first asked the price of a DK40 and then it went to rear remotes and now we`re talking about apples,bananas and potatoes.LOL You gotta laugh. Anyway I pd $23,200 for a DK40 se w/fel but that`s here in northern N.H. Ok you guys can have the thread again to talk about boats,beans,bananas.Just kidding I just think it`s funny so don`t get mad at me.

 

[k0ua]

Wow in 6 pages of comments you guys have really gotten off topic. Jhrod first asked the price of a DK40 and then it went to rear remotes and now we`re talking about apples,bananas and potatoes.LOL You gotta laugh. Anyway I pd $23,200 for a DK40 se w/fel but that`s here in northern N.H. Ok you guys can have the thread again to talk about boats,beans,bananas.Just kidding I just think it`s funny so don`t get mad at me.

Speaking of all that food, I am getting hungry.. can I have fries with that?

 

[bvanek]

Hey pmaintman looks like we might be almost twins (soon) I just ordered a DK40SE (gear with loader and beet juice) $21,800 and I own a cub cadet 7260 . Since the hydro was quoted to me at $1,700 more, it looks like your price is pretty good.. IT was $24,275 for the DK45SE Hydro. I live in an expensive area (NW Oregon) and we usually pay more because of shipping, limited dealerships and supply/demand economics. Not to mention we border California!