Difference between BX 22 and Bx 23??
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MessickFarmEqu
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Minor things, hood latch change, dif lock peddal moved, etc,etc.
Pks
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If you're ever given the choice between a 3 way valve and the 4 way, choose the 4 way. The 3 way is tailored to FEL use and won't run a motor or snow blade cylinders.
tsmtjoseph
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The headlights on the 23 are much more attractive but from what I could determine, no more effective. If you still haven't bought one yet, here's what to consider: Does the 22 have the 3 way or 4 way valve. If it has the 3 way, you need to decide if this will be a problem now or in the future depending on the implements you plan to use. If you're not sure, talk it over with a salesman (that's what they're there for). If you think you may need a 4-way, it could be cheaper to get the 23 now than the valve later. If it has the 4-way, buy the cheaper one.
MessickFarmEqu
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FYI, there is little price difference between the 3/4 way valve on most Kubota equipment... its about $30 on the BX22. Most dealers, if they think though their orders only will sell the 4-way... thus why the 3-way is no longer availabe on the 23.
BPD239
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I traded a BX2200 for a BX23, and I have found that there are differences in the tractors. I had the 4-way valve on the BX2200, but it was standard on the BX23. The loader control valve is also attached to the tractor full time which I find to be a major improvement.
As for the hood....I figured out how to get the hood closed on the BX2200 without a major problem. I read that they had improved the BX23 hood, and I looked forward to seeing a big improvement. That isn't the case though, all that was changed was the way the locking pin is engaged/disengaged. The BX2200 had a straight push pull type lever on the dash which if you pushed in by hand instead of just closing the hood and hoping the spring pulled it forward, worked fine. The BX23 hood is identical, the pin and hood catch are the same, but now you can't just push the pin forward. I found you have to wiggle the hood to get it to close.
I have also noticed that the BX23 is a lot harder to start in the cold. I don't know if I have a problem with the glow plugs, but the BX2200 never had a problem in zero degree temps. There have been times I didn't think the BX23 would start and it is garaged, where the BX2200 had been in a shed. If the glow plugs are working, and I have read about others having starting problems, I am going to purchase a block heater.
I also posted that there the attachments for the BX2200 did fit perfectly on the tractor, but with the different loader control, the hydraulic hoses for the attachments do not work. I had to purchase longer hoses to reach from the front attachment lift to the loader controller.
I have also found the safety features on the BX23 to be more annoying. The BX23 has the weight switch in the seat, so if you shift in the seat the tractor stalls. When the weather warms up, that is going to be "fixed".
As for the hood....I figured out how to get the hood closed on the BX2200 without a major problem. I read that they had improved the BX23 hood, and I looked forward to seeing a big improvement. That isn't the case though, all that was changed was the way the locking pin is engaged/disengaged. The BX2200 had a straight push pull type lever on the dash which if you pushed in by hand instead of just closing the hood and hoping the spring pulled it forward, worked fine. The BX23 hood is identical, the pin and hood catch are the same, but now you can't just push the pin forward. I found you have to wiggle the hood to get it to close.
I have also noticed that the BX23 is a lot harder to start in the cold. I don't know if I have a problem with the glow plugs, but the BX2200 never had a problem in zero degree temps. There have been times I didn't think the BX23 would start and it is garaged, where the BX2200 had been in a shed. If the glow plugs are working, and I have read about others having starting problems, I am going to purchase a block heater.
I also posted that there the attachments for the BX2200 did fit perfectly on the tractor, but with the different loader control, the hydraulic hoses for the attachments do not work. I had to purchase longer hoses to reach from the front attachment lift to the loader controller.
I have also found the safety features on the BX23 to be more annoying. The BX23 has the weight switch in the seat, so if you shift in the seat the tractor stalls. When the weather warms up, that is going to be "fixed".
Junkman
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Just think back two years ago........ you thought then that you didn't have a need for a backhoe. Just goes to show that once you have the tractor and realize what it can do, you start to want all the "accessories" that it will work, just to see how much more it can do. To me, the backhoe is a back saver, and like air conditioning, you might not use it often, but you sure are glad to have it when you need it.
Does your BX23 have the new engine in it or the old design engine? I remember reading that Kubota was using the old design engines until stock was depleted and then going to be installing the new design engine. To date, no one has posted an response to how the block heater is mounted in the new design engine. Have you asked your dealer about this yet??
Does your BX23 have the new engine in it or the old design engine? I remember reading that Kubota was using the old design engines until stock was depleted and then going to be installing the new design engine. To date, no one has posted an response to how the block heater is mounted in the new design engine. Have you asked your dealer about this yet??
BPD239
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I hadn't heard that about the different engines, but the dealer had said the engine in the tractor I bought was designed to meet the emission standards, so I would guess it was new??? I will be checking the price and location of the block heater when I get a chance, it seems like it is going to be a must have on this tractor.
You are sooo right about the backhoe. I did a lot more with my BX2200 than I ever thought. Not only on my own property, but when you have a tractor like this friends always have a project in mind too!! If I had the BX23 when I built my garage I could have saved myself some $, when the foundation and footings were put in.
I also did a couple asphalt removal projects with BX2200. It took a while with the BX2200. At a friend's house the blacktop was old and previous owners had some good ol' oil leakers in the driveway. That made it easy to brake the blacktop by flipping it over with the bucket. My driveway has never had oil on it for any long period of time. I ended up having to cut it into 2ft strips to pull it out. I needed to remove a 10ftx40ft section and it took a long time to cut it. With a backhoe it would have been a lot easier.
I'm just waiting for the frost to leave the ground then the projects will begin.
Any update on the Northeast luncheon!
You are sooo right about the backhoe. I did a lot more with my BX2200 than I ever thought. Not only on my own property, but when you have a tractor like this friends always have a project in mind too!! If I had the BX23 when I built my garage I could have saved myself some $, when the foundation and footings were put in.
I also did a couple asphalt removal projects with BX2200. It took a while with the BX2200. At a friend's house the blacktop was old and previous owners had some good ol' oil leakers in the driveway. That made it easy to brake the blacktop by flipping it over with the bucket. My driveway has never had oil on it for any long period of time. I ended up having to cut it into 2ft strips to pull it out. I needed to remove a 10ftx40ft section and it took a long time to cut it. With a backhoe it would have been a lot easier.
I'm just waiting for the frost to leave the ground then the projects will begin.
Any update on the Northeast luncheon!
Junkman
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I'm just waiting for the frost to leave the ground then the projects will begin.
Any update on the Northeast luncheon! )</font>
I figure that it will be another 8 weeks before the ground here in Northeastern CT will be firm enough to move the tractor over it. After the frost leaves the ground, then comes the mud season, followed by the May flies and then the mosquitoes. Isn't the change of seasons wonderful????
We meet the second and fourth Thursday of the month at noon at Gracie's on RT. 20 East, in Sturbridge. It is just West of the Sturbridge Walmart. If you want to follow me there, just send me a PM a couple of days before. The meeting is open to anyone that cares to come...
Any update on the Northeast luncheon! )</font>
I figure that it will be another 8 weeks before the ground here in Northeastern CT will be firm enough to move the tractor over it. After the frost leaves the ground, then comes the mud season, followed by the May flies and then the mosquitoes. Isn't the change of seasons wonderful????
We meet the second and fourth Thursday of the month at noon at Gracie's on RT. 20 East, in Sturbridge. It is just West of the Sturbridge Walmart. If you want to follow me there, just send me a PM a couple of days before. The meeting is open to anyone that cares to come...
