Diabetes

   / Diabetes #761  
Below is what carb's are. What are you eating?
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Carbohydrates, or carbs, are sugar molecules. Along with proteins and fats, carbohydrates are one of three main nutrients found in foods and drinks. Your body breaks down carbohydrates into glucose. Glucose, or blood sugar, is the main source of energy for your body's cells, tissues, and organs.
Look up ketogenic diet. It originally was formulated over 100 years ago for treating mental conditions. It more recently has been popular for weight loss. Now it is widely accepted for reversing T2 diabetes. Many insurance companies are covering programs to help people change their lives on a ketogenic diet. It is a lot cheaper than insulin. At the beginning of this year, many insurance companies required any of their patients on a GLP-1 drug to be on a ketogenic diet plan as a condition for receiving the drug.

The diet still is being studied for treating mental conditions as well as slowing/reversing mental deteriorations and body inflammation.

By keeping the insulin low, your ketones will help your body run on fat.

As for what I eat... fat, protein, and minimal carbs. So eggs, meat, fish, nuts, non-starchy vegetables, olive, coconut, and avocado oils, butter, some yogurt, and some berries. The easy part of the diet has been you're not hungry and the body inflammation/aches are gone.
 
   / Diabetes #762  
Look up ketogenic diet. It originally was formulated over 100 years ago for treating mental conditions. It more recently has been popular for weight loss. Now it is widely accepted for reversing T2 diabetes. Many insurance companies are covering programs to help people change their lives on a ketogenic diet. It is a lot cheaper than insulin. At the beginning of this year, many insurance companies required any of their patients on a GLP-1 drug to be on a ketogenic diet plan as a condition for receiving the drug.

The diet still is being studied for treating mental conditions as well as slowing/reversing mental deteriorations and body inflammation.

By keeping the insulin low, your ketones will help your body run on fat.

As for what I eat... fat, protein, and minimal carbs. So eggs, meat, fish, nuts, non-starchy vegetables, olive, coconut, and avocado oils, butter, some yogurt, and some berries. The easy part of the diet has been you're not hungry and the body inflammation/aches are gone.

Keto diet is not healthy and may harm the heart​

Harvard Medical School.​


Research we're watching​


May 1, 2024

By Julie Corliss, Executive Editor, Harvard Heart Letter

The ketogenic (keto) diet — which is high in fat and protein and low in carbohydrates — doesn't meet standards for a healthy diet and may not be safe for some people with heart disease, according to a review in the March 2024 issue of Current Problems in Cardiology.

The review summarized the current evidence on how keto diets may raise heart disease risk. While the diet may dramatically reduce fat mass and weight over the short term, there is scarce evidence for any long-term benefit. Ketogenic diets appear to lower blood levels of triglycerides but raise levels of artery-clogging LDL cholesterol. With respect to lowering blood sugar and blood pressure, the observed short-term benefits fade over time.
 
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#763  
NorTrac, your diet sounds very healthy, and lean.
I'd need more fruit than berries.
which is why I eat an apple every night for dessert.
but once a week, would really like a bowl of ice cream.
and as long as my numbers aren't crazy, that's where my interest in
knowing how this really affects us long term, the occasional pigout.

in some ways I'd rather smile til I'm 90
versus frump til I'm 100...
until one gets really sick and then most of us wish we had lived/eaten differently
 
   / Diabetes #764  

Keto diet is not healthy and may harm the heart​

Harvard Medical School.​


Research we're watching​


May 1, 2024

By Julie Corliss, Executive Editor, Harvard Heart Letter

The ketogenic (keto) diet — which is high in fat and protein and low in carbohydrates — doesn't meet standards for a healthy diet and may not be safe for some people with heart disease, according to a review in the March 2024 issue of Current Problems in Cardiology.

The review summarized the current evidence on how keto diets may raise heart disease risk. While the diet may dramatically reduce fat mass and weight over the short term, there is scarce evidence for any long-term benefit. Ketogenic diets appear to lower blood levels of triglycerides but raise levels of artery-clogging LDL cholesterol. With respect to lowering blood sugar and blood pressure, the observed short-term benefits fade over time.
I know that you'd believe me when I say I can find a study that says otherwise. The ketogenic diet has been around for a long time and there are many active case studies, randomized control studies, etc going on. People have actually become healthy enough to LEAVE nursing homes. Autoimmune diseases have disappeared in people. I'm not saying it's for everyone, nor magic, but for thousands it's been life changing in a good way.

As with anything, be careful what you read. Who would be against a ketogenic diet? Vegetarians, all food companies which produce processed food, & pharmaceutical companies. Do you think these groups have any influence in this country?
 
   / Diabetes #765  
I know that you'd believe me when I say I can find a study that says otherwise. The ketogenic diet has been around for a long time and there are many active case studies, randomized control studies, etc going on. People have actually become healthy enough to LEAVE nursing homes. Autoimmune diseases have disappeared in people. I'm not saying it's for everyone, nor magic, but for thousands it's been life changing in a good way.

As with anything, be careful what you read. Who would be against a ketogenic diet? Vegetarians, all food companies which produce processed food, & pharmaceutical companies. Do you think these groups have any influence in this country?
Cardiovascular disease (CVD) is a group of conditions that affect the heart and blood vessels. It is the leading cause of death globally, accounting for over 17 million deaths annually
 
   / Diabetes #766  
NorTrac, your diet sounds very healthy, and lean.
I'd need more fruit than berries.
which is why I eat an apple every night for dessert.
but once a week, would really like a bowl of ice cream.
and as long as my numbers aren't crazy, that's where my interest in
knowing how this really affects us long term, the occasional pigout.

in some ways I'd rather smile til I'm 90
versus frump til I'm 100...
until one gets really sick and then most of us wish we had lived/eaten differently
Most say my diet is the opposite of that. Most calories are coming from fat. Fat was demonized in the 80s. Most people still believe that false premise.

I eat ice cream. It's a lot of fat. I just make it with a non-glycemic sweetener. An apple has similar sugar to a muffin, but it has a lot more fiber. It's not a bad thing to have, but one a day would likely make it tough to be in ketosis. I have learned to not have the occasional pigout. I've learned portion control much better. I'll feel like garbage if I eat too much.

Smiling till I'm 90 versus frump till I'm 100 is EXACTLY why I'm on this. I feel 20 years younger. If this diet ends up taking a few years off my life, I'll be fine as the quality of my life is SOOOO much better. No aches!!! Even energy!!! Great sleep!!!
 
   / Diabetes #767  

Keto diet is not healthy and may harm the heart​

Harvard Medical School.​


Research we're watching​


May 1, 2024

By Julie Corliss, Executive Editor, Harvard Heart Letter

The ketogenic (keto) diet — which is high in fat and protein and low in carbohydrates — doesn't meet standards for a healthy diet and may not be safe for some people with heart disease, according to a review in the March 2024 issue of Current Problems in Cardiology.

The review summarized the current evidence on how keto diets may raise heart disease risk. While the diet may dramatically reduce fat mass and weight over the short term, there is scarce evidence for any long-term benefit. Ketogenic diets appear to lower blood levels of triglycerides but raise levels of artery-clogging LDL cholesterol. With respect to lowering blood sugar and blood pressure, the observed short-term benefits fade over time.
Just for entertainment and those that don't understand how industry works. Harvard scientist released studies in 1967 reporting how sugar is not an issue for cardio vascular disease. The Sugar Research Foundation paid research to show it was fat and not sugar that was the problem. This funding was not disclosed by the researchers. This went on for decades and still does today. Industry can easily afford to pay for research which pays handsome dividends.


"Is it really true that food companies deliberately set out to manipulate research in their favor? Yes, it is, and the practice continues. In 2015, the New York Times obtained emails revealing Coca-Cola's cozy relationships with sponsored researchers who were conducting studies aimed at minimizing the effects of sugary drinks on obesity. Even more recently, the Associated Press obtained emails showing how a candy trade association funded and influenced studies to show that children who eat sweets have healthier body weights than those who do not."
 
   / Diabetes #768  
As a teenager & early 20s I would drink sweetened condensed milk and sometimes eat an entire cheesecake or cake with frosting. I was 6ft & 125 pounds, 24" waist pants. I exercised a lot.
My 2c is the worst thing is sitting and processed food. As Jack LaLanne used to say " if man made it, you don't want it".
We don't eat pork anything. Personally I think this wagyu beef is terrible...high fat. We eat very little meat, mostly fish & chicken. No farm raised salmon.
No diabetes in my family side at all. Lots of diabetes in wife's family side & they drank diet soda & we never did.
 
   / Diabetes #769  
Several members of my family have diabetes. Most of them gained it due to unhealthy lifestyle, bad diet and extra weight. Most of them buy Ozempic online to manage blood sugar levels and weight. But to have the needed result it is important to change their lifestyles and nutrition completely. So, I know how serious it is and what it might cause. But it's a good reminder for me that I need to take care of my health and monitor my weight.
 
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   / Diabetes #770  
Here's a great breakdown of key self-care practices for folks with diabetes:


1. Healthy Eating:
  • Plan meals: Speak with a registered dietitian or healthcare provider to create a meal plan that fits your individual needs and preferences.
2. Physical Activity:
  • Aim for regular exercise: Engage in at least 150 minutes of moderate-intensity aerobic activity per week.
3. Medication Adherence:
  • Take medications as prescribed: Follow your healthcare provider's instructions carefully.

4. Blood Sugar Monitoring:
  • Check your blood sugar regularly: Follow your healthcare provider's recommendations for how often to test.
  • Use a glucometer: Learn how to properly use a blood glucose meter.
  • Keep a record of your readings: Track your blood sugar levels to identify trends and patterns.
  • Discuss your results with your healthcare provider:They can help you adjust your treatment plan as needed.

5. Problem-Solving and Coping:
  • Learn about diabetes: Educate yourself about your condition and how to manage it.
  • Focus on whole foods:Prioritize fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and lean protein.

  • Limit processed foods, sugary drinks, and unhealthy fats:These can negatively impact blood sugar levels.

  • Control portion sizes:Pay attention to portion sizes to help maintain stable blood sugar levels.

  • Read food labels:Be aware of carbohydrate content and added sugars.

  • Increase fiber intake:Fiber helps regulate blood sugar levels.

  • Choose activities you enjoy: Find exercise or some activities that you can stick with consistently that help you to move more.

  • Incorporate a variety of exercises:Include aerobic, strength, and flexibility exercises.

  • Consult with your healthcare provider:Get guidance on safe and appropriate exercise routines.
  • Stay hydrated:Drink plenty of water, especially during and after exercise.
  • Learn about your medications:Understand how they work and potential side effects.

  • Set reminders:Use alarms or pill organizers to help you stay on track with your medication schedule.
  • Don't skip doses:Even if you feel well, continue taking your medications as prescribed.

  • Develop healthy coping mechanisms:Find ways to manage stress and emotional challenges related to diabetes.

  • Seek support:Connect with other people with diabetes or join a support group.

  • Communicate with your healthcare team:Don't hesitate to ask questions or seek guidance.

  • Be proactive: Take an active role in your diabetes care.
 
   / Diabetes #771  
Surprised I have not mentioned this before in this ancient discussion. :ROFLMAO: I went back and read all of my posts which was educational to see where I was years ago diet wise.

I have continued to do Intermittent Fasting which has kept the weight off. Just wish I could loose a five more pounds. I get close to loosing that five pounds and then it will somehow come back. :rolleyes:

One think we have noticed is that old TV shows from the 50's, 60's and 70's are history program now. Look at how people dressed, hair styles, and yes how thin they were back then. What has changed? It is diet, and while the Supersized Fast Food Mentality share some of the blame, I really think it is the processed foods added to our "food."

Too many carbs that are highly processed. Years ago, I was in the grocery store and saw the small red hot sausages I would eat from time to time as a kid. I picked up a package and read the label. It had High Fructose Corn Syrup(HFCS). 🤬 I looked at every red hot sausage package I could find, there were surprisingly quite a few, and every single one had HFCS! 🤬 I don't think the red hots I was eating as a kid had HFCS as an ingredient.

Back to TV programs. Notice how thin people were in Star Trek, Andy Griffith or Columbo. Pick a show and see the difference in the cast size vs today. A few months ago, I was looking for family history, and ended up reading newspapers from a small town in NC. The papers were from the 1930's. Unreal that someone had digitized that newspaper from that far back but it sure was interesting. I have also found videos taken from that time on YouTube. The common thing is how thin most of the people were. Very few NON thin people, and the people who were NON thin would not really be considered fat today. Overweight sure, but nothing compared to too many people in the west today.

What has changed? It is the diet. Sure many people where more active back then but people are active today as well. They might not be plowing the back 40 but they playing Pickle Ball, walking, going to the gym, etc. Same with kids. My kids had far more sports to participate in than I ever did and they were active in sports. The change is this super process foods.

When I first heard about staying away from seed oils, my reaction was that is silly. But then I started thinking about it. How DO you get OIL out of corn, soybeans, or canola? It is from quite a bit of processing and chemicals. Even olive oil can be processed which is why one should just used EVOO(Extra Virgin Olive Oil).

Animal fat is supposed to be bad for you for frying but is it worse then seed oils? Where people in the 1930s eating fried food that was cooked in lard or corn oil? I think it was lard they had collected. But then we got Crisco.....

Years ago, I wanted to make some Cuban bread. The difference between Cuban and French bread is that Cuban bread has a bit of lard. I found a 8 ounce packet of lard at the store, it took some looking, and made a loaf or two of Cuban bread, put up the lard and forgot about it...

Years later, I found that package of lard. It was perfect. It looked just like I had opened the package. :unsure: Of course, that lard was highly processed and was hydrogenated. I doubt people were using hydrogenated lard in the 1930's. We are eating too much processed food. it is everywhere and one really has to read labels.
 
   / Diabetes #772  
Diet tips for new T2 Diabetics:

Find a copy of the old Lilly diabetic diet and use it as a guide for the first three months. The idea that T2 Diabetics can eat anything they want is horse-pucky.

If you can, convince your doctor prescribe a Continuous Glucose Monitor. If the doctor won't prescribe one, and you can afford it, get one of the over-the-counter versions to use while you learn your new diet. It may surprise you how different things you have been eating effect your blood glucose levels.

Get a good digital portion scale, accurate to the gram.

Read, all the labels. And use the apps available to track food and calculate the carbs you are consuming.

Try to keep all carbs you consume at least 20% fiber.

Calculate reactive carbs. That is total carbs, minus the fiber, plus the sugar, plus the added sugar. For example. The label on the loaf of bread indicates, that a slice of bread has 24-grams of carbs, 5-grams of fiber, 5-grams of sugar, and 3-grams of added sugars. The reactive carbs would be 24-5+5+3, with a reactive carb count of 27-grams. This is based on how fast your body digests different carbs, and releases glucose into the blood stream. Fiber is slow to digest. Naturally occurring sugar is relatively fast to convert to glucose. Refined sugars are really fast to convert to glucose and hit the blood.

Everybody talks about the glycemic index of various foods. The glycemic index (GI) is how fast a food hits the blood as glucose, as compared to a slice of white bread. This is based on the times observed after a twelve hour fast. If you have a Continuous Glucose Monitor (CGM), you can get a good idea of the GI of the carbs you eat, by eating a "serving" as breakfast, and watching what happens to your glucose levels over the next few hours.
 
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   / Diabetes #773  
"
  • Learn about diabetes: Educate yourself about your condition and how to manage it."

Why would you want to manage it when it's reversible? Seriously, that's a question. Why live with something that you know is destroying your body? Manage it if you don't think it's that bad, but I chose to stop the direction my body was taking.
 
   / Diabetes #774  
"
  • Learn about diabetes: Educate yourself about your condition and how to manage it."

Why would you want to manage it when it's reversible? Seriously, that's a question. Why live with something that you know is destroying your body? Manage it if you don't think it's that bad, but I chose to stop the direction my body was taking.
Its yet another conspiracy! :LOL:
 
   / Diabetes #775  
.... We are eating too much processed food. it is everywhere and one really has to read labels.
When I went to the grocery store a few days ago I REALLY wanted a danish...... Yeah, I know it is bad for me, yada yada yada. :) But I had not had anything sweet like a danish in months....

I did read the label and just put the box of danish back on the shelf. :) The list of ingredients was huge. Really, should have been nothing but flour, apples, sugar, and spices. Instead of a short sentence of ingredients it was a paragraph in small print. :(

We have been to the Netherlands twice, and when on vacation, I eat what I want. :) The last trip we stayed near a pastry shop. I would eat something from that shop every day. There was a "pancake" restaurant in town that I visited at least six times. Both places were family owned. Awesome food. I lost weight. I doubt either place was using HFCS, loads of preservatives, and who knows what else.
 
   / Diabetes #777  
   / Diabetes #778  
Many of these drugs have poor short, or long term effects. What do you got to get some exercise?

Same question for everyone. What are you doing for exercise?
IMHO, the drugs are given out with little guidance. These severely suppress appetite in some users and it's CRITICAL for them to get protein and exercise. Many on them lose significant muscle mass and not just excess body fat.

I put in about 3 hours of stretching, lifting, and cardio every week. Variety is important, especially for cardio.
 
   / Diabetes #779  
If you'd like to live longer, while using less insulin and enjoy life in general.
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National Library of Medicine

Health Benefits of Physical Activity​

Regular physical activity leads to a number of beneficial physiological changes that favorably affect muscle and liver insulin sensitivity, muscle glucose uptake and utilization, and overall glycemic control (2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14). However, the benefits of a physically active lifestyle extend beyond improvements in insulin action and glycemic control. Consistently performed activity can improve lipid profile, decrease body weight and percentage of body fat, lower blood pressure, and more positive life and health changes.
 
   / Diabetes #780  
Health Benefits of Physical Activity
Regular physical activity leads to a number of beneficial physiological changes that favorably affect muscle and liver insulin sensitivity, muscle glucose uptake and utilization, and overall glycemic control (2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14). However, the benefits of a physically active lifestyle extend beyond improvements in insulin action and glycemic control. Consistently performed activity can improve lipid profile, decrease body weight and percentage of body fat, lower blood pressure, and more positive life and health changes.
If only exercise and an active lifestyle made me feel as good as eating food that is bad for me.
 

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