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Tractors4u
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What kind of options have you been getting with these quotes? 4WD, loader, anything else. That price sounds HIGH! I received a quote of $17,000 out the door for a JD4310 with ePowerreverser, and $16,686 for a Kubota 3130 equipped the same.
ronjhall
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Matt
Welcome to TBN. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Both of the tractors that you are considering are great tractors, the prices seem about right.
If you are like me and have limited time to do chores you may want to consider more horsepower? This will allow you to get a 72” mower and pull a larger rotary cutter (bush hog).
I have a B2910 that uses the larger mower and rotary cutter.
If I had 10 acres instead of 4 I would consider the Grand L series tractors.
One of the most common suggestions on TBN is get more horsepower. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Welcome to TBN. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Both of the tractors that you are considering are great tractors, the prices seem about right.
If you are like me and have limited time to do chores you may want to consider more horsepower? This will allow you to get a 72” mower and pull a larger rotary cutter (bush hog).
I have a B2910 that uses the larger mower and rotary cutter.
If I had 10 acres instead of 4 I would consider the Grand L series tractors.
One of the most common suggestions on TBN is get more horsepower. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Dieter
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Matt,
A year ago I purchased the 4110 with FEL, 60 MMM and ballast box for 16,500. That also included michigan sales tax. You should shop around. As for the 4110, I could not be happier with it. I also looked at the Kubota 7500 and the NH tc21d. I thought that any of the three would be great machines, but it came down to dealer reputation and how I was treated when I was at the dealerships. In my area the JD dealer was tops.
A year ago I purchased the 4110 with FEL, 60 MMM and ballast box for 16,500. That also included michigan sales tax. You should shop around. As for the 4110, I could not be happier with it. I also looked at the Kubota 7500 and the NH tc21d. I thought that any of the three would be great machines, but it came down to dealer reputation and how I was treated when I was at the dealerships. In my area the JD dealer was tops.
Bob_Skurka
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I'm looking at this from a different angle that some others, so simply ignore me if you want to . . . but you are mowing 2 acres, and I will presume grooming a drive or doing some light landscape work with the box blade. To be blunt, a small tractor will do that. In fact, a simple lawn tractor will mow 2 acres. The other 8 will be the question. I would start with how much manuverability do you want in your tractor when you mow? I have a Kubota with an FEL/BH, the FEL is always on the tractor and I have NEVER used it for mowing because I have a lot of hills, dips and bumps combined with a lot of trees to mow around. My B2910 is simply too big for mowing on most of my property. I have a Cub Cadet, it was used exclusively for mowing about 6 acres for 8 years and it is a strong machine that gets under the small trees, right up to the edge of the landscaping without mowing it down, gets to the fenceline and runs along the brick walls of the house. Those are simply places I can NOT get any of my larger tractors. I also have a NH TC24D <font color="blue"> (I am not afraid of the parts supply in 20 years because the CNH division is financially strong, the parent company is the one in trouble) </font> that is used for mowing, it was purchased with that as a primary reason early this year. Its small frame size (but not sub-compact) gets me much closer to things than I can get with the larger tractors and has greatly reduced the amount of time spent on the Cub Cadet.
I guess my point is, 10 acres of farmable land is not a big deal to maintain. 2 acres is a piece of cake to mow, and a hardware store tractor will do that (although it will not hold up as well as a better built machine). The FEL is a great feature, but if you have trees and shrubs and fairly elaborate landscaping you will find you end up taking that FEL off for much of your mowing, or you will end up with another tractor or push mower (I have both) so that you can get into the tight spaces). The bigger the tractor the harder it is to use for mowing, unless you are mowing a field, then the bigger tractor is an advantage because you can go up in implement size and you don't have to worry about turning it around your prize shrubs or getting between your wife's rose bushes.
If my land was a flat rectangle with minimal trees I might mow with the B2910, but if you like landscaping your property, then you might find the quicker to turn slightly smaller frame tractors are well suited for your tasks. In fact, while I personally don't like the BX series tractors, I think one might work well for you.
I guess my point is, 10 acres of farmable land is not a big deal to maintain. 2 acres is a piece of cake to mow, and a hardware store tractor will do that (although it will not hold up as well as a better built machine). The FEL is a great feature, but if you have trees and shrubs and fairly elaborate landscaping you will find you end up taking that FEL off for much of your mowing, or you will end up with another tractor or push mower (I have both) so that you can get into the tight spaces). The bigger the tractor the harder it is to use for mowing, unless you are mowing a field, then the bigger tractor is an advantage because you can go up in implement size and you don't have to worry about turning it around your prize shrubs or getting between your wife's rose bushes.
If my land was a flat rectangle with minimal trees I might mow with the B2910, but if you like landscaping your property, then you might find the quicker to turn slightly smaller frame tractors are well suited for your tasks. In fact, while I personally don't like the BX series tractors, I think one might work well for you.
art
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Matt, I thought Bob did an excellent job for most all things except the dislike of the BX Kubota. It is important not to go to big as you do loose versatility. I've seen people do that to many times and the worst part of it is if you think you might get beat up on price to have a near new trade, try a near new trade going down in size! The smaller tractor might mean just a 4' brush hog instead of a five. You might want to consider the new 7610 Kubota.
Dieter
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I agree with Bob. I also looked long and hard at the BX. I would have to say that it probably could have done anything that I have done this far with the 4110 and saved me a couple of thousand of dollars. I think the 4110 is very manuvarable for its size, perhaps the BX is slighlty better in this category? Bottom line is this is a machine that you will likely have as long as you have the property so I wouldn't hesitate to spend a little extra and get what your heart tells you. Also don't underestimate the importence of a good dealer that will rememer you years after the sale.
Just my 2 cents
Just my 2 cents
Hambone
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Since you guys are steering toward the BX, I must say also check out the JD2210 and the Massey GC2300.
I didn't check out the GC because of no dealer real close. The BX2200 and the 2210 were within $40 around here. You should be able to get into either one with FEL and MMM for under $13,000. Both would pull a 4ft. rotary cutter.
Shop shop shop.
I didn't check out the GC because of no dealer real close. The BX2200 and the 2210 were within $40 around here. You should be able to get into either one with FEL and MMM for under $13,000. Both would pull a 4ft. rotary cutter.
Shop shop shop.
Bob_Skurka
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Hey Art, at least I when I said I didn't like the BX series I said it was a personal dislike, and then I did suggest it was a capable machine. And I will state that my dislike of the BX is more the looks of the machine than anything else. Obviously they are fantastic machines from the practical standpoint, and I obviously have nothing against Kubota either, the reality is the BX series sub-compact tractors set a new/high standard in estate tractor quality and versatility. But I still personally would not buy one. Now the near clone of the BX is the new little Massy GC2300, I actually like that sub-compact. . . I don't know why!
I guess my original point is that a nice compact tractor, something in and about 20 to 25 hp will be plenty for what it seems like Matt is looking for in the LONG run.
I used the FEL constantly when we were CONSTRUCTING our landscaping, which I admit is probably more extensive and elaborate than most people have. But for MAINTAINING the landscape and yard, the B2910 is simply too big. I have about 12 acres, a few are farmed by a real farmer, about 6 are mowed and most of that has trees, and the rest is heavy woods. I bought the NH TC24D because it has plenty of HP in a SMALL easy to turn frame size. I can switch implements between tractors and I co-own some with one of my neighbors. I think Matt really needs to think about his chores and then look at the capabilities of the tractors and possibly even reconsider his choices?
Big tractors are nice, they are even fun, but sometimes bigger is worse, not better.
I guess my original point is that a nice compact tractor, something in and about 20 to 25 hp will be plenty for what it seems like Matt is looking for in the LONG run.
I used the FEL constantly when we were CONSTRUCTING our landscaping, which I admit is probably more extensive and elaborate than most people have. But for MAINTAINING the landscape and yard, the B2910 is simply too big. I have about 12 acres, a few are farmed by a real farmer, about 6 are mowed and most of that has trees, and the rest is heavy woods. I bought the NH TC24D because it has plenty of HP in a SMALL easy to turn frame size. I can switch implements between tractors and I co-own some with one of my neighbors. I think Matt really needs to think about his chores and then look at the capabilities of the tractors and possibly even reconsider his choices?
Big tractors are nice, they are even fun, but sometimes bigger is worse, not better.
Matt,
Congrats on the new house/land and future tractor. If you are like me, you'll wonder how you survived living on less land.
Anyway--I like Bob's take on the whole size issue.
We have just over 7 acres and I purchased the 4010 (step under the 4110). My biggest project to date was the relocation of the portion of my driveway near my house. This was an extensive project that took several weekends and many nights after work. I used the box scraper, FEL and tiller. In the middle of the project, I sure would have appreciated a bigger machine, but the bottom line is I got it done.
Now--the tractor is used for the following items:
1. Mowing
2. Grading the 500 foot driveway
3. Misc. loader work
4. Snow removal
5. Tilling up the neighbors garden.
The list is loosely based on time spent with # 1 being the most time consuming and 5 the least. I mow about 1.5 acres and the rest is left natural.
So--while it would have been nice to have a bigger tractor for my one big project, the 4010 is a great fit for 99% of my needs. I will say this--although I have never run out of power, if I did it over again I would have gone with the 4110. My dealer forgot some rebates (he eventually refunded $1200) and if I would have taken into account the extra money, I would have been close enough to go with the 4110.
My neighbor has a Kubota--also a very nice tractor--I don't think you'd go wrong with either.
Good Luck
Bob
Congrats on the new house/land and future tractor. If you are like me, you'll wonder how you survived living on less land.
Anyway--I like Bob's take on the whole size issue.
We have just over 7 acres and I purchased the 4010 (step under the 4110). My biggest project to date was the relocation of the portion of my driveway near my house. This was an extensive project that took several weekends and many nights after work. I used the box scraper, FEL and tiller. In the middle of the project, I sure would have appreciated a bigger machine, but the bottom line is I got it done.
Now--the tractor is used for the following items:
1. Mowing
2. Grading the 500 foot driveway
3. Misc. loader work
4. Snow removal
5. Tilling up the neighbors garden.
The list is loosely based on time spent with # 1 being the most time consuming and 5 the least. I mow about 1.5 acres and the rest is left natural.
So--while it would have been nice to have a bigger tractor for my one big project, the 4010 is a great fit for 99% of my needs. I will say this--although I have never run out of power, if I did it over again I would have gone with the 4110. My dealer forgot some rebates (he eventually refunded $1200) and if I would have taken into account the extra money, I would have been close enough to go with the 4110.
My neighbor has a Kubota--also a very nice tractor--I don't think you'd go wrong with either.
Good Luck
Bob