DEF going away ?

[Shawn T. W.]

Back in the beginning of '22 the fuel prices skyrocketed again! My neighbor asked me how I could afford to put in over 100 gallons a day when the price was $5-$7 a gallon across the country?

I told her ... "It's only money"! That our contracts include a "fuel surcharge" that when the cost of diesel goes up, we just tack that onto the freight bill ... The customer pays us, then they pass it along to the end consumer!

We do mostly all our trucking based on yearly contracts ... Occasionally we need to pick up a "broker load" to get us out of an area, but if the price is not good, we either sit a day or two until we get a better rate, or deadhead (drive empty trailer) to an area that has good freight!

 

[D&D]

Back in the beginning of '22 the fuel prices skyrocketed again! My neighbor asked me how I could afford to put in over 100 gallons a day when the price was $5-$7 a gallon across the country?

I told her ... "It's only money"! That our contracts include a "fuel surcharge" that when the cost of diesel goes up, we just tack that onto the freight bill ... The customer pays us, then they pass it along to the end consumer!

We do mostly all our trucking based on yearly contracts ... Occasionally we need to pick up a "broker load" to get us out of an area, but if the price is not good, we either sit a day or two until we get a better rate, or deadhead (drive empty trailer) to an area that has good freight!

I love it when the local haulers have a delivery fuel surcharge still tacked on when prices go down. The local propane guy has a $12 dollar per delivery fuel surcharge. The local fuel oil guy added $0.10 per gallon to his supply regardless of p/u or delivery.
We all know the price of doing business is going up, the BS cover stories, I could live without.

 

[4570Man]

Some industries are exempt from pollution control standards. Railroad locomotives and cargo ships are a couple examples. Cargo ships use bunker oil as fuel. Bunker is cheaper but pretty nasty. I wonder about the cruise ships like Carnival?

They have exhaust scrubbers but they still run pretty dirty. It’s not the same standard def diesels met.

 

[Snobdds]

The rolling coal people gave the deletes a bad name. The problem is those two people can be mutually exclusive or they can be both. That is an almost impossible problem to solve. You will always get the bad actors that lack impulse control.

If I could just get stock programming with no emissions, I would be a happy boy. I would also not be polluting at any sizeable rate than current, once all factors are included.

Like I said previously, the only fix is to have congress pass a law that allows companies to have no legal exposure to individual state law that exceeds federal guidelines.

 

[Hay Dude]

Back in the beginning of '22 the fuel prices skyrocketed again! My neighbor asked me how I could afford to put in over 100 gallons a day when the price was $5-$7 a gallon across the country?

I told her ... "It's only money"! That our contracts include a "fuel surcharge" that when the cost of diesel goes up, we just tack that onto the freight bill ... The customer pays us, then they pass it along to the end consumer!

We do mostly all our trucking based on yearly contracts ... Occasionally we need to pick up a "broker load" to get us out of an area, but if the price is not good, we either sit a day or two until we get a better rate, or deadhead (drive empty trailer) to an area that has good freight!

I wish I could do that. Problem is for the small guy like me, perpetually locked into a “race to the bottom” business, customers would pick the contractor who doesn’t put a fuel surcharge on their contracts.

 

[Redbug]

Not anymore!

Trains operating in the USA have to use ULSD same as the trucks ... Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel Information

And globally run ships use fuel with a maximum sulfur content of only 0.5% ... But, if they are gonna operate in coastal Europe or N. America, they can't go over 0.1% sulfur content ...

BTW ULSD has only 15 ppm (0.0015%)

https://blog.response.restoration.noaa.gov/fueling-blue-economy

I did not know they got upgraded to a higher standard. That is good news. You learn something new every day.

 

[spruce Deere]

We rented a brand new high track D5 caterpillar this spring at work. I made it to 30 odd hours and the def system was all red flashing lights. Dealer ended up hauling the thing back and swapped us out the d5 for and older d6, wich ran absolutely perfect.

The caterpillar mechanic sent out to fix the dozer told us that 75% of his service calls are emissions system related. He felt the benefit from the emissions stuff seems to be to sell more parts, clean exhaust second.

 

[RandyT]

Don't deal with diesel emissions or large engine issues. But I deal with small mower engines, and the emissions crap that has come about on those over the years. And one thing that has stuck out is as engine emissions got tighter engines have gotten bigger. So back in the 70-80's when push mowers had 3 hp engines and 42" riders had 10 hp engines have transformed into 6.5 hp engines on push mowers and 25hp engines on 42" riders. And you are telling me that new 6.5 or 25hp engine emits less pollution than the 3 and 10hp engines of the 70-80's. Vehicle engines have followed the same story, with gas and diesel engines on cars and trucks getting bigger displacements.

 

[JTKub]

You have to remember these aren’t owner operated trucks with 30 years experience. An automatic transmission truck is no doubt going to experience less maintenance cost with fleet drivers.

Fleet use for sure isn't easy miles and my company likes to clutch their pocket books and go cheap. We do have a mix of veteran drivers, where most were owner/operators at one time in their life and we have newer drivers. I've seen a lot the 29yrs I've been with the company. Even back then, a tractor with ~500K miles on it was about shot.

 

[mjonesnh]

Especially in your state. Harrisburg last week, diesel was 4.359 cash price Luckily all I needed was a sammich and potty break.

Pump diesel cash price in middle TN. area is 3.299. Why do you think over $1.00 gallon difference?