Deere 790 fuel

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dt_busse

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Hi all. This is my 2d post.

I could use some help from a knowledgeable diesel user.

I've had just about no trouble with my Deere 790 with Yanmar 3-cylinder diesel since I bought it used with about 120 hours on it. It's got about 650 hours on it now. It's the first diesel engine I've ever owned.

But. It starts and runs fine when it wants to, but intermittently stalls and shows low fuel in the filter bowl. I've replaced the bowl and filter and the fuel line coming down from the tank to the bowl, and completely removed the plastic shutoff valve where the line from the tank attaches to the filter bowl. No change. The fuel level at the bowl stays right near the bottom of the bowl after it stalls. Since the bowl is well below the bottom of the fuel tank, it seems like it should be filling just by gravity feed. Unless I'm mistaken, there's a vent line going from the filter bowl unit up and into the top of the tank, so there shouldn't be any reason gravity won't fill the filter bowl. But the bowl doesn't fill and the engine won't run for more than 30 seconds or so until the tractor has sat for a while and the fuel level has gradually, very slowly, risen back up in the bowl.

If I try to restart it before the fuel level is back up in the bowl, some additional fuel is sucked into the bowl and it usually runs for a short while but the fuel comes in slow in foamy lines all around the filter bowl - not adding enough from the tank to make up for what the engine is drawing out, so it stalls within a minute or so from lack of fuel again.

After it's sat over night it will start right up and run fine, sometimes for an hour or more, until it decides not to let the filter bowl have any more fuel. And sometimes five or 10 minutes after it stalls it will start up and run fine again.

Any thoughts?

Dave B
 
   / Deere 790 fuel #2  
kinda sounds like trash in the tank is gathering at the tank outlet.
 
   / Deere 790 fuel #3  
kinda sounds like trash in the tank is gathering at the tank outlet.

Or it could be as simple as a bad fuel cap. They are vented, and sometimes the vents get clogged up-so there is a vacuum in the tank. When the fuel bowl get empty and/or the machine starts to sputter-try loosening the cap quickly.
 
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#4  
kinda sounds like trash in the tank is gathering at the tank outlet.

Or it could be as simple as a bad fuel cap. They are vented, and sometimes the vents get clogged up-so there is a vacuum in the tank. When the fuel bowl get empty and/or the machine starts to sputter-try loosening the cap quickly.

Thanks for the quick replies.

I was afraid it might be a blocked fuel tank but I wanted to get a handle on whether I understood how the fuel supply works before I went to taking the tank off to try to flush it out. I tried today running it with the fuel cap loose or off and it didn't make any difference at all.

Before I try removing the tank, is there anything in the system that might be pressurizing the filter bowl above the level of the fuel?

Dave B
 
   / Deere 790 fuel #5  
No, It's just gravity drop to the filter housing
 
   / Deere 790 fuel #6  
When this (shuts down) happens try and loosen the fuel cap and see if the bowl fills to test if the cap vent is bad.
 
   / Deere 790 fuel #7  
When this (shuts down) happens try and loosen the fuel cap and see if the bowl fills to test if the cap vent is bad.

Did you READ anything posted in this thread?
 
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No, It's just gravity drop to the filter housing

Well this afternoon I took apart everything between the tank and the fuel pump again and took apart the filter housing and poked and prodded around and didn't see anything wrong. Not much that can go wrong. No particular crap on the filter.

Then I hooked it all back up and started up the engine and got instant low fuel in the filter bowl until I saw that I hadn't taken off the clamp I put on the hose coming from the tank while I took stuff apart. (The plastic shutoff valve in the filter housing broke quite a while ago and I took it out and tossed it.) I loosened the clamp and then the filter bowl filled up immediately and the engine ran fine with plenty of fuel for the next three or four hours. I just shut it off now.

There wasn't any clamp on the hose when it wasn't getting fuel before today.

Who knows?

Thanks for the tips.

Dave B
 

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