dealer sells damaged Frontier implement as new

   / dealer sells damaged Frontier implement as new #11  
If I pay the "new" price tag, then I want "new" condition also. Would you buy a scratched up new car with ripped seats? Some worker put that together. I probably wouldn't have taken it home though in the first place. And I don't care that it's equipment that will be used; frankly, I want to scratch my own stuff up so I can only blame myself for future problems.

I'd say if you pay full list for equipment then you have a leg to stand on. If you "shop" the best price and then are disappointed that there are scratches from shipping or possibly even assembly, you need to look at that.

Brian
 
   / dealer sells damaged Frontier implement as new #12  
Somebody get mad.. ;)


Still dont like the attitude of the 'dealers' and their 'mechanics'.. Wont buy from one. Wont order parts from one. Posts showing this attitude against customers (above) only prove the point.
 
   / dealer sells damaged Frontier implement as new #13  
Maybe items like spreaders ought to have two price points: one for un-assembled, in a damaged beat up box, with a rattle can of paint to be applied by the consumer, and another option of dealer motivated profit margin calculated to the last penny, where delivery of the product is guaranteed to be in pristine condition, for those who actually expect a product of quality to be sold by a, 'insert dealer name here', middleman.
Americans, in general, have come to accept shoddy quality and that is what we will continue to get so long as we accept it.
Why bother painting something at the factory to begin with if the final delivery to the retail consumer is going to be scratch and dent level shoddyness?!
Why have floor model, open box and demo discount levels on all kinds of items across all types of products if one can opt to buy new, in new condition?
As but one for instance, when I bought my box blade it had been fading on the lot for some time. It was supposed to be orange. I asked my dealer to tell me what he could do for me about the faded, scratched condition of the unit and he said he would paint it for the price quoted but I would have to take black instead of the factory orange. I agreed that would be acceptable. It was, like the OP's spreader not a big ticket item, but if I wanted cheaper quality I could have bought from TSC just a block away. I chose to support my selling dealer, for which every sale helps him stay in business. I usually give him first shot at selling me whatever I need, sometimes he gets the sale, sometimes not.
 
   / dealer sells damaged Frontier implement as new #14  
Somebody get mad.. ;)

Still dont like the attitude of the 'dealers' and their 'mechanics'.. Wont buy from one. Wont order parts from one. Posts showing this attitude against customers (above) only prove the point.

The consumer is as much to blame for this. Many think that the dealer should sell everything at cost then when the dealer cuts his profit to the bone, the consumer expects the same quality and treatment as the customer who respects the fact that in order for the dealer to remain in business and continue to provide a quality product and service, he will need to make a profit.

Everytime I do work for a customer that wants me to lower my price for him, I regret it. Those customers expect to get more than the full price customers in my experience. If you want a cheaper price from me, don't expect the extras of a full price customer. I will still provide a quality repair, but you won't get the extra attention that full price customers will. Maybe that attitude will cost me customers, but I'd rather have customers that want quality over price. If they want a half-assed repair, Craigslist may be the better choice for them. I provide a quality service for a competitive price.

Maybe the OP paid full price, I don't know. Hopefully he isn't one of the type I've mentioned. I still think he needs to communicate his expectations to the dealer for future reference. Maybe the dealer has some recourse with the manufacturer. It could very well be that the assembly got rushed, he did say he was there waiting for it.

Brian
 
   / dealer sells damaged Frontier implement as new #15  
<snip>tube frame badly scratched, some of it badly spraypainted <snip>
Without pictures we can just guess, but is the OP calling scratches "damaged"? I've bought several new implements recently, a PHD, a chipper, a plow. All had poor spraypainting. And as soon as I mounted them on the 3 pt and moved them thru the woods they were scratched.

The best thing to do is to get the implement home and wack it a couple of times with a hammer. Then it's no longer a virgin.

Or put it in a display case and don't use it.
 
   / dealer sells damaged Frontier implement as new #16  
yep, I like my new stuff to be delivered to me looking new also.
 
   / dealer sells damaged Frontier implement as new #17  
I guess the OP can comment, but around here if you buy anything at the Green stores, you're paying full price. I've spent plenty there myself and I'd expect a pristine anything for the price I pay there.
 
   / dealer sells damaged Frontier implement as new #18  
I guess the OP can comment, but around here if you buy anything at the Green stores, you're paying full price. I've spent plenty there myself and I'd expect a pristine anything for the price I pay there.

I'd agree with that comment, if I'm paying full price I'd have higher expectations. I'm really starting to wonder how much of this was because there a rush since he was there while they were assembling it. If I were the one doing the assembly I'd have let him know that there is paint damage that occurs during shipping and at least offer to get him some touch-up paint. As far as the assembly on the concrete floor I'm not changing my opinion on that.

Brian
 
   / dealer sells damaged Frontier implement as new #19  
If I buy new I expect new show room condition. If I buy something that is scratch and dent then I expect it at a much less price. If a dealer is going to sale you something at a price that they are not making hardly if any money on then they should tell you if that does not include touch ups and so on. From what I have seen though most dealers anymore dont care if your paying the cheap price or full price they still try to do the least work as possible. I shine all my equipment and keep it in tip top shape. If I want used I will buy it.
 
   / dealer sells damaged Frontier implement as new #20  
If I buy new I expect new show room condition. If I buy something that is scratch and dent then I expect it at a much less price. If a dealer is going to sale you something at a price that they are not making hardly if any money on then they should tell you if that does not include touch ups and so on. From what I have seen though most dealers anymore dont care if your paying the cheap price or full price they still try to do the least work as possible. I shine all my equipment and keep it in tip top shape. If I want used I will buy it.

When it comes to implements showroom condition is going to have some paint scuffs and scratches. It is going to be an exception that there isn't some kind of shipping injury to the finish. Perfect show quality implements just doesn't happen, unless the dealer will disassemble sandblast and repaint and decal stuff. It is going to be touched up at best.
 

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