J_J- I do read your posts, and value your expertise! I can't say that I've paid alot of attention to the Hydro-Line ones, simply, 'cause I didn't quite know what I was getting into, until my recent 'hose-ing'!! A week ago I didn't know an ORB from a JIC! Guess the thing that gets me is that they're 'cutting/crimping' this stuff, while you wait! It's not that I wanted a 7' hose, that's stock, 'on the rack', but one that's 10" shorter, they have to make! They're making all of them, off the same spool of stock! I'll have no problem ordering stuff on-line for future projects, just that I wanted to get my 'feet wet', on this first project, with a local supplier! Obviously, taking them back, is not an option, after all, I told them what I wanted, got exactly what I wanted, and they're installed. I just want to inquiry about their pricing structure!! I didn't realize that those 'wet feet' I was experiencing would be the result of my bladder down-loading, when I saw the bill!! To quote you: "Just go in the next time, with a good understanding of things, and a complete list with measurements, and tell them not to make anything until you have an estimate, and you have agreed on the price."............Wise words indeed! ~Scotty