Curved VS Straight Loaders: PHOTOS

[pekabu]

True, but in the last picture I can see the corners of the NH bucket.

 

[ns_in_tex]

Good presentation and you convinced me the sloped hood & loader gives better view from the seat.

I still wonder about one fact, which I realize would not change the operators view from the seat. How high is the seat off the ground of each?

 

[Dargo]

Yeah, you have convinced me that there is better visibility. Maybe in several years the look will grow on me; I still think the curved loader is ugly. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[JayC]

Thanks for doing the work to put this together. This is very interesting. When I checked out a DX24 with fel a couple months ago it definately had an excellent view, but I couldn't compare it to any straight hood/dog leg loaders. This comparison really put things into perspective. Thanks! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[Bob_Skurka]

<font color="green"> I guess the engineer in me says that it seems to have nothing to do with the curved loader arms and everything to do with the slopped hood. If you redesigned the engine compartment of the Kabota and put a slopped hood on it, you would have equal views.
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Rozett, take a closer look. You can actually see top of the bucket over the top of the loader arms on the NH. So other than where the hood is, the bucket itself is what is blocking your view, not the arms.

Also, consider the B2910/LA402 combo actually has fairly low profile loader arms (the loader arms are at the same level as the hood when the bucket is as rest). What that means is that the Kubota is actually a tractor with a fairly good view. Dig around a bit and find a tractor with a Kyoker loader and see how high the arms sit. Or take a look at some of the Mahindras. Or take a look at some of the Jinmas. Many of those units have arms that are actually above the hood when the bucket is as rest. There is a little Jinma unit that has been for sale for months near me, the loader arms are probably 6" above the hood. The higher the arms are the worse the view is because it compounds the problem of visibility.

NOW, consider that when you actually work the tractor you do not typically have the bucket all the way down for most of the work. That means that no matter how bad the view is when the bucket is at rest, it is worse when you are moving because the arms come up and block even more of a view.

Ugly or not? That is a matter of choice.

Functional or not? I think the debate of that should be about ending with these pictures.

Strong or not? The loader ratings on the tractors place their capacities at the upper range of the spectrum.

Personally, after using the B2910 to clear a 1 acre industrial field early this summer and then coming home to the TC24 in the evenings I can tell you that I am convinced that there is no real comparision when you actually work with these things. The curved arms make work go faster.

 

[jinman]

Nice job, Bob! Very detailed and very well presented. Be sure and tell Melen we all thank her for her help too. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

By the way, I used to work with a lady named Mary Alice. We called her Malice. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif ... or just M.A. most of the time.

 

[Golfgar4]

Bob,

Great job! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

And I'll second Jim's recommendation to thank Melen for helping out! She looks like a terrific kid with a dynamite smile! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Just so you know, I'm going to save this thread as a favorite so that I can easily find it when someone starts complaining about the different loaders. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Thanks for helping clarify things for folks! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Steve_Miller]

Bob,
You should run for president, you make a good presentation. Great job! It will be a great reference for future debate as it has settled this one from my perspective.

Steve

 

[ronjhall]

<font color="blue"> I think the debate of that should be about ending with these pictures.
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Bob
Great pictures to show the differences.
I will agree with the view improvements with the curved loader arms and sloped hood.
However, I wonder if the sloped hood and tighter engine compartments may be a contributing factor in the battery problems that some tractors are experiencing?

 

[Bob_Skurka]

<font color="green"> I wonder if the sloped hood and tighter engine compartments may be a contributing factor in the battery problems that some tractors are experiencing? </font>

Ron, I think they are separate issues only because they seem to have been resolved. It seemed to plague some models on some years, but not all. Then there is also the Kioti issue, because they have very similar loaders and hood designs on their CK20, CK25 & CK30 tractors with their 120 & 130 loaders. If the issue of tighter compartments was leading to battery problems then you'd also expect the Kioti folks to have similar issues. As it is, I think it the NH guys only experienced the battery issues on 1 or 2 production years and only with some specific batteries that were spec'd in some of the models.