Counterfiet filters

[chuck172]

That's a ridiculous price for a filter, counterfeit or genuine.

I agree, but there is no way around it. I don't want to jeopardize any warranty issues. This is the first 50 hour service.

 

[Hill Billy Bob]

I think the title of this thread should be Aftermarket Filters, not Counterfeit. As stated above, Donaldson is a 100 year old company.....Baldwin has been making filters since 1936....and Fleetguard, started in 1987 is not as old, but is a division of Cummins Engine, and come as OEM filter on many very large, and very expensive, diesel engines. Now, how about our tractors?......Daedong started in 1947, but didn't make a tractor until 1968, and Kioti wasn't introduced here until 1993.

What I'm saying is these filters are made by well established, quality oriented companies....not some fly by night, counterfeit producer.

 

[DT86]

I think the title of this thread should be Aftermarket Filters, not Counterfeit.

Yes. :applause:

 

[chuck172]

I think the title of this thread should be Aftermarket Filters, not Counterfeit. As stated above, Donaldson is a 100 year old company.....Baldwin has been making filters since 1936....and Fleetguard, started in 1987 is not as old, but is a division of Cummins Engine, and come as OEM filter on many very large, and very expensive, diesel engines. Now, how about our tractors?......Daedong started in 1947, but didn't make a tractor until 1968, and Kioti wasn't introduced here until 1993.

What I'm saying is these filters are made by well established, quality oriented companies....not some fly by night, counterfeit producer.

Don't know about that, I started this thread, and the filter in question is a question. It is supposed to be a t4125-38021 daedong, instead it is a "red filter with no lettering or markings"

 

[coobie]

I cannot figure WHY folks buy expensive tractors and then CHEAP OUT on buying QUALITY FILTERS from there local supporting dealers?If we do not support our Kioti dealers for parts and service that we need how long are they going to stay in business ? When the local Kioti dealer goes out of business because of lack of support we will ***** and complain.

 

[chuck172]

I cannot figure WHY folks buy expensive tractors and then CHEAP OUT on buying QUALITY FILTERS from there local supporting dealers?If we do not support our Kioti dealers for parts and service that we need how long are they going to stay in business ? When the local Kioti dealer goes out of business because of lack of support we will ***** and complain.

For the life of me, I can't figure out how some folks pay top dollar to local Kioti dealers for tractors, then let them hit us again with the filters for them.

 

[coobie]

For the life of me, I can't figure out how some folks pay top dollar to local Kioti dealers for tractors, then let them hit us again with the filters for them.

I guess you could have bought green or the other orange color for $10,000 more verses the Kioti.IMHO sell your tractor that should resolve your filter buying problems.Being a kubota owner also have you ever priced super UDT hydro fluid?Hang on to your wallet $55 per gallon.I guess I need to sell them,stinking dealers?

 

[chuck172]

that makes sense, I'll just sell my tractor so I won't have to buy a filter ???

 

[coobie]

that makes sense, I'll just sell my tractor so I won't have to buy a filter ???

You have to do what you have to do to save a few bucks. The choice is yours.Good luck on your choice chuck172.

 

[chuck172]

Thanks Coobie.

 

[coobie]

Thanks Coobie.

You are more than welcome my friend.

 

[oosik]

Sawworcs - No, you are right and I did not express myself correctly. The $100 I speak of is just for the various filters - DEFINITELY NOT the oil too. Although I do use "Kubota oil" also. Its no more expensive than other top branded oils.

Lets face it - equivalent sized tractors regardless of color use - basically - the same filters for air, engine oil, hydraulic oil and fuel. Is there any valid reason that there should be such a wide price difference?? Somebody is getting ripped off - whether the filter comes from the dealer or an aftermarket manufacturer.

 

[s219]

I agree, but there is no way around it. I don't want to jeopardize any warranty issues. This is the first 50 hour service.

I think there's some law that says you don't have to use a manufacturer's parts to maintain warranties, but to me the real issue is that Kioti is raping customers with that price. Do they do that on all their parts? Maybe this is how they recover some extra profit after selling tractors at a lower price point. I don't think I have paid more than $50 for an OEM hydraulic filter before, even on a pricy brand like Deere.

 

[coobie]

I think there's some law that says you don't have to use a manufacturer's parts to maintain warranties, but to me the real issue is that Kioti is raping customers with that price. Do they do that on all their parts? Maybe this is how they recover some extra profit after selling tractors at a lower price point. I don't think I have paid more than $50 for an OEM hydraulic filter before, even on a pricy brand like Deere.

The law I assume you are referring to is the Magnuson-Moss warranty act.No different I guess than Kubota Rapes there customers on super UDT fluid at $55 per gal.IMHO it is a conspiracy

 

[DK35vince]

I think there's some law that says you don't have to use a manufacturer's parts to maintain warranties, but to me the real issue is that Kioti is raping customers with that price. Do they do that on all their parts? Maybe this is how they recover some extra profit after selling tractors at a lower price point. I don't think I have paid more than $50 for an OEM hydraulic filter before, even on a pricy brand like Deere.

It must be a HST filter thing.
The hydraulic filter for my gear model DK 35 is around $35.

 

[kco]

It must be a HST filter thing.
The hydraulic filter for my gear model DK 35 is around $35.

The DK's HST filter is the expensive one. The last I bought was $140 Cdn I believe. It is not like a normal filter. It is narrow but very heavy and made with thick steel. I think it operates at the full hydraulic pressure. It is a MUCH different construction than other filters.

On the other hand, the CK series filters are a much lighter, normal type construction and priced like other filters.

Other than the expensive HST filter, the lighter hydraulic, engine, and fuel on the DK seem in the same price range as other filters.

 

[murphy1244]

The HST filter is on the pressure side of the pump therefore built heavier. Most filters are on the return side.

 

[RickB]

The HST filter is on the pressure side of the pump therefore built heavier. Most filters are on the return side.

Or the suction side.

 

[murphy1244]

Or the suction side.

Thanks Rick.:thumbsup:

 

[cat fever]

I thought changing the oil's on my Harley was expensive. I can hardly wait to get after it on my tractor. I'm up to 25 hours so I have a little ways to go. Better save up :tractor: