Snow Conn Power Outages

Hay Dude · Dec 25, 2022

Residents of the once great city of Philadelphia being asked to cut back on extra electrical usage (turn off Christmas lights, lol).
I think the mass conversion from gas & oil to electric to heat homes has caused unanticipated electrical demand.

WranglerX · Dec 25, 2022

5030 said:
O find it amazing, how poor shape the grid is in today.

That is as a society we were allowed to become too complacent with out infrastructure ... And our government would protect us...

Richard001 · Dec 25, 2022

Hay Dude said:
Residents of the once great city of Philadelphia being asked to cut back on extra electrical usage (turn off Christmas lights, lol).
I think the mass conversion from gas & oil to electric to heat homes has caused unanticipated electrical demand.

Only "unanticipated" by the dreamers, realist understand that wind and solar are unreliable energy sources.

AndyMA · Dec 25, 2022

Richard001 said:
Only "unanticipated" by the dreamers, realist understand that wind and solar are unreliable energy sources.

Wind & Solar coupled with energy storage is a very reliable source of energy

Richard001 · Dec 25, 2022

AndyMA said:
Wind & Solar coupled with energy storage is a very reliable source of energy

OK great, please inform us of the capabilities of the "energy storage".

5030 · Dec 25, 2022

AndyMA said:
Wind & Solar coupled with energy storage is a very reliable source of energy

Could have fooled me. it will never be mainstream. Just ask Gavin Newsome.

orezok · Dec 25, 2022

Richard001 said:
OK great, please inform us of the capabilities of the "energy storage".

Here ya go. Just one of many being built in progressive CA.

rScotty · Dec 25, 2022

Richard001 said:
OK great, please inform us of the capabilities of the "energy storage".

Locally the large utilities store power by reversing the hydro-electric generators when demand is low, and pumping water to a paired reservoir at a higher elevation. That's a fairly common way to store hydro-electric energy anywhere there is an elevation difference of a few hundred feet or more.
Capabilities are whatever it is designed to be. Pretty much unlimited.

rScotty

Yander · Dec 25, 2022

AndyMA said:
Wind & Solar coupled with energy storage is a very reliable source of energy

Sounds good in theory, but energy storage for providing backup to Wind and Solar is not there yet. Wind/Solar are reliable sources of energy, just not feasible for the scale of coal that they are trying to replace.

Wind/Solar do not transport well, it is incredibly hard to transport wind/solar energy long distances. It is the reason you see them popping up everywhere, get used to that.

France is 70% nuclear and have the lowest utility rates of any country I believe. Cook Nuclear in Michigan is the most efficient power producing Plant that AEP owns and, unless it is in outage for maintenance, is always entered into the PJM market due to it's low cost to generate electricity.

Too much media hype and misinformation is out there about renewables just as there is about a lot of things. Is Solar/Wind reliable, yes when the wind is blowing and the sun is shining and you are close to the source of demand and your willing to pay more to generate it. Yep, its reliable.

Power companies are not retiring coal because they want to, they are retiring them because of the hype associated with renewables that the investors want to see in their portfolios.