Confronting another tresspasser. Step 1 went ok

[lilranch2001]

For clarification:


(TBN's old trolls can surely find other places to tout their impaired reading comprehension and create diversion for the sake of their own entertainment.)

Or TBN Trolls can learn to type in a manner that their communications make some sort of sense

 

[Paul Thornton]

I'd have no problem watching out and informing a neighbor if anyone is on their property and give them all the information I could, however, if someone is on my neighbor's property and I go on said property to confront any trespassers (on the land), I'm just creating a legal mess for myself "if anything should happen". I have as much right as being on my neighbors property as the trespasser does. Now, if someone is breaking and entering into my neighbor's home, I believe that could be a different story LOL

I agree with Sigarms, well said

L2800 w/FEL - 72" Land Pride rake

 

[the old grind]

... I have as much right as being on my neighbors property as the trespasser does.

Now, if someone is breaking and entering into my neighbor's home, I believe that could be a different story LOL

Sigarms, your ok if my opinion means anything.:thumbsup:

I have been given permission to scout, hunt, and trap by the landowner herself as appreciation my for helping her assigned watchman, tho' not to modify any part of it. Haven't hacked a shrub-one or made a new trail/path in 10 years.

Maybe others have been granted similar privileges, but she hadn't mention them to any of us on her last visit to see how we're doing. (We've been reviewing our 'rights & responsibilities' since the boys first rode in several weeks ago.)

In the mind, and with the er' attitude, of the other owner (property with the house) a B&E there wouldn't be much worse than just setting foot on it. That is something I've only done in his company or to assist his 'helper'(a guy with one arm who's been doing his yard work since his funeral) and with the ok of the brother (his heir) who just listed it for sale.

btw: when the house was broken into two years ago, we were interviewed by LE and our statements helped them identify & find the perps. We weren't charged with anything for speaking up. ___ thanked us for repairing the broken entry window, helping him asses what wasn't stolen, and tidy up in the aftermath.

Oh, and my brief conversation with the young lad took place not 50' from the road, near our 'service' entrance along the dividing property line, and not going beyond the trampled fence post where the track crossed the property line.

Or TBN Trolls can learn to type in a manner that their communications make some sort of sense

So if I understand correctly, the OP here (myself) is the troll and visitors are perhaps duty-bound to reproach same for not having written in a way that they can catch on by page 5. (Oops, my bad. But do us both a favor, avoid Proust, and Cicero too since he wrote in Latin & if you don't read Latin that could also be my fault.)

So far, the only heat I'm feeling is from members here. OK

Thought for the day: It's been said that "what you don't know won't hurt you."

That in no way suggests you can't use what you don't know or understand as ammo to assail someone you don't understand, no matter how hard they try to help you justify your presence or imagine why you haven't moved on to upbraid other OP-'trolls'.

lilranch, if you're ever up this way you simply must stop by for a brewski & a smoked pilchard or a cup of Joe and a donut. If that doesn't appeal to you I'll just imagine you don't approve of my spelling either. :drink:

 

[oosik]

Holy Cr*p. Let's face it. What a total waste of time and space.

 

[the old grind]

... And yet it goes on and on without the OP going to his corner for a time-out. :duh: (That's what you'd do, right?)

Besides, who in their right mind would defend their mere words against ... uh, whatever brought on the gang-piling. :laughing: (Couldn't do it without ya.)

Participation is voluntary. Thanks for joining in! Can't wait to read the next thread you start even if it won't be to ask why you visited mine. (Counting on you personally to stick around & keep this going ...)

Tried, and apparently convicted, for the shameful act of self defense against a well-deserved onslaught by the very pillars of righteousness ..... or the bored and bold?

(OK, I'll let go of your arm now ...)

 

[Rock knocker]

Nice job of victimization

 

[lilranch2001]

Sigarms, your ok if my opinion means anything.:thumbsup:

I have been given permission to scout, hunt, and trap by the landowner herself as appreciation my for helping her assigned watchman, tho' not to modify any part of it. Haven't hacked a shrub-one or made a new trail/path in 10 years.

Maybe others have been granted similar privileges, but she hadn't mention them to any of us on her last visit to see how we're doing. (We've been reviewing our 'rights & responsibilities' since the boys first rode in several weeks ago.)

In the mind, and with the er' attitude, of the other owner (property with the house) a B&E there wouldn't be much worse than just setting foot on it. That is something I've only done in his company or to assist his 'helper'(a guy with one arm who's been doing his yard work since his funeral) and with the ok of the brother (his heir) who just listed it for sale.

btw: when the house was broken into two years ago, we were interviewed by LE and our statements helped them identify & find the perps. We weren't charged with anything for speaking up. ___ thanked us for repairing the broken entry window, helping him asses what wasn't stolen, and tidy up in the aftermath.

Oh, and my brief conversation with the young lad took place not 50' from the road, near our 'service' entrance along the dividing property line, and not going beyond the trampled fence post where the track crossed the property line.



So if I understand correctly, the OP here (myself) is the troll and visitors are perhaps duty-bound to reproach same for not having written in a way that they can catch on by page 5. (Oops, my bad. But do us both a favor, avoid Proust, and Cicero too since he wrote in Latin & if you don't read Latin that could also be my fault.)

So far, the only heat I'm feeling is from members here. OK

Thought for the day: It's been said that "what you don't know won't hurt you."

That in no way suggests you can't use what you don't know or understand as ammo to assail someone you don't understand, no matter how hard they try to help you justify your presence or imagine why you haven't moved on to upbraid other OP-'trolls'.

lilranch, if you're ever up this way you simply must stop by for a brewski & a smoked pilchard or a cup of Joe and a donut. If that doesn't appeal to you I'll just imagine you don't approve of my spelling either. :drink:

Its ok, I took Latin 3 years at Catholic School 45 years ago, I can still make a little out of that language.

Some other language.... not so much

 

[firedog]

Its ok, I took Latin 3 years at Catholic School 45 years ago, I can still make a little out of that language.

Some other language.... not so much

Agreed, it ain't all that bad. Took me a while to get the hang of it.
Grind, I think your somewhat between a rock and a hard place. Not much you can do legally other than inform the owners as you have already agreed. It's a shame that some people believe unoccupied land is open for their own abuse.

Thanks for looking out for your neighbors.

 

[coobie]

Just so you know, as I also live in mid Michigan and have some experience with this subject, the State Police told me directly (as did the 911 operator), that only the registered landowner can file or make a claim about trespassing. No letters of authority, or acting on behalf of, or any relatives, etc. If your name is on the deed, you can report or flie or charge, if its not YOUR property, keep your mouth closed and don't waste your time.

100% agree with your statement.Unless your are the DEEDED LAND OWNER you have NO LEGAL AUTHORITY.My best friend and neighbor who is 80 years old has given my full authority to look out after his 30 acre parcel across from my house.This past spring we had a tresspasser (nurmous times)coming onto his property.I was told by the Mi.state police the( land owner )would need to file a trespass complaint,not me.The land owner did so and the trespasser was given a verbal warning buy the local police dept.

 

[Sigarms]

I have been given permission to scout, hunt, and trap by the landowner herself as appreciation my for helping her assigned watchman, tho' not to modify any part of it. Haven't hacked a shrub-one or made a new trail/path in 10 years.

Maybe others have been granted similar privileges, but she hadn't mention them to any of us on her last visit to see how we're doing. (We've been reviewing our 'rights & responsibilities' since the boys first rode in several weeks ago.)

In the mind, and with the er' attitude, of the other owner (property with the house) a B&E there wouldn't be much worse than just setting foot on it. That is something I've only done in his company or to assist his 'helper'(a guy with one arm who's been doing his yard work since his funeral) and with the ok of the brother (his heir) who just listed it for sale.

btw: when the house was broken into two years ago, we were interviewed by LE and our statements helped them identify & find the perps. We weren't charged with anything for speaking up. ___ thanked us for repairing the broken entry window, helping him asses what wasn't stolen, and tidy up in the aftermath.

What you're doing is right nice neighborly, but keep in mind, your an "assigned watchman" as long as there are no problems. Legally, you have as much right to being on your neighbors property as any tresspasser does (I believe, I'm not a lawyer). What you're going is great in my book, however, it almost seems as if your neighbor is taking advantage of you. If you see something on your neighbors property, by all means take notes and report it to both the landowner and authorities (for what good that will do you), BUT once you go onto your neighbors property to act as a "watchman", I forsee nothing but potential problems if "anything were to get out of hand".

I can't help but ask why in the heck your neighbor doesn't give you a deal on the property for your own use for all that you do since you're being so nice. I understand you aren't doing what you do for personal gain, but since the land is no longer being used by the owner and you're being so great, giving you first options on the land would be the neighborly thing to do in response.

When we first moved to our place there was a gentlemans agreement with a farmer to use our future property for his cattle (the old owner of our house and property hadn't lived there for years). The "deal" was that the farmer would take care of the land and fencing, and in return he got to keep his cattle there. When we moved in, we honestly thought it was the neighborly thing to do to keep the agreement. After 3 years of nothing but issues with the cows getting loose and absolutley NOTHING being done to take care of the land or fencing, we asked the farmer to take his cows off the property. He did give me a sob story, but we stuck to our guns. Felt bad about for a couple of years until we found out he kicked his sister out of his trailer (he owner on his land) because he could get more rent money from someone else. After talking to some of my neighbors (one of which who uses one of our fields for hay), I've come to the conlcusion that the guy originally using our land wasn't really a nice neighbor to begin with.