Coal stoves

   / Coal stoves #21  
I sold the Alaska Stoker stoves for six years. The mid sized stokers burned about 3 ton a year and the bigger units about 4 ton a year. You can burn a stoker earlier in the season with the controlled burn.
I now heat the house with a hot water coal fired stoker boiler. We use 6-7 tons a year in a big old drafty stone house.
Pa. has some top quality stoker manufacturers, Harman, Alaska, Keystoker, and others. Coal is about $200 a ton so it's a good alternative to wood.
They do create a bit of dust and you also have the coal ashes to contend with.
 
   / Coal stoves #22  
As far as getting coal to the house I just pick it up at the breaker.When I get too old or too lazy I'll have it delivered.But for now I don't want to pay the 25$ a ton delivery charge.
As far as storage you can build a coal bin inside like I did if you have access to a window where the bin is located and where a truck can back into.Many people opt for outside bins but that's a PTA when it's raining or snowing .
 
   / Coal stoves #23  
I have been heating with coal for a dozen years or so, I burn it in a Heartland Cookstove. I have an open floor plan so the Cookstove heats pretty much the whole house comfortably (1500 sq ft) on all but the coldest of winter days. The Cookstove has a smaller firebox than a dedicated heating stove so I get much better burn times with coal over wood. No creosote and no chimney fires. Another added advantage of the Cookstove of course is we do most of our Cooking and Baking with it when she is fired up. We burn two and a half to three tons a year we buy it bagged.

Al
 
   / Coal stoves #24  
My parents heat mostly with coal. They have a multi-fuel furnace that burns oil, wood or coal. One of these Yukon Husky Wood Furnace . Since it's inside, there's no going out in rain/snow to tend it. A few shovels of coal (nut) holds it overnight. On days like today where it was quite warm during the day, it held a good 18 hours with no real tending. You can easily get the house too hot, if coal had been fed in this morning the house would have been pushing 80F all day.

How much they burn depends partly on the weather and also the quality of the coal as not all coal is created equally. The coal I ended up buying for them last fall didn't come from where they've preferred and was not good at all, even with the very mild winter I estimate they used between 1/4 to 1/3 more coal each week.

When the coal is good and the fire actively tended, they may burn 3-5 ton per winter along with about 1.5 cord of wood and a 1/4 tank of oil.

Where they buy the coal sometimes is determined by who has it when they need it. Since they are in the coal region near Shamokin, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, they can get it straight from the breaker. Last weekend I picked up 1700lb with the pickup. My preference is using the Bri-Mar trailer since I can drag about 6000lb home at one time.

Storage is basically in three places. I put bin at one end of their property for bulk storage and can comfortably fit 3 ton in it. Drawback to that space is I cannot dump the trailer into it due to it being a low deck trailer. Shoveling coal is a workout. :D They have another trailer, an old utility trailer, that isn't safe for road use and is parked next to the basement door for the winter. I modified it to have an expanded steel bed floor which allows any snow that accumulated on the coal to drain out once it melts and have a removable cover to keep it dry. Some coal does get lost though. I can keep about 4 - 5 weeks of coal in the trailer. I want the coal dry only because it means I'm not bringing water into their basement. Inside storage is a garden wagon which I roll outside weekly and fill with coal. That should hold slightly over a week but since this coal was crap, I supplemented it with a poly cart so my mother isn't stuck shoveling coal outside in the dark. When my dad was in good health, he did all of that so a larger indoor supply wasn't important. Coal cost is anywhere from $100 - $200 per ton, that's with me going and getting it.

Ashes are the by product of course. They have 3 metal trash cans which I take to another end of their property and dump on a pile. I'd like to find a use for them.
 
   / Coal stoves #25  
I dump wood ashes on my garden plot, not sure what density coal ashes are but don't they eventually break down from weathering when left exposed?
 
   / Coal stoves #27  

Thanks Roy...interesting reading...I remember my grandparents always had a huge garden that produced beautiful flowers and vegetables but I don't know if they dumped their coal ashes on the garden or not. My dad used to have fly ash from the local utility trucked into one of his rental properties with a gravel driveway to use as fill, but that stuff is very different from home burnt coal ash. From what I read of the PennLive article, you could spread the coal ashes on your yard and let them work into the soil. Heck, 90% of my grass is so bad I don't think ANYTHING would hurt it.
 
   / Coal stoves #28  
I am leery of dumping coal ash in the garden myself simply because I don't know how I would test for levels heavy metals etc. My own grandfather used ashes to create paths in the woods and I've thought of using it to firm up a couple of "soft" roads. I'd want to put a bunch of lime on top if it to neutralize the acid some, those roads are greenways in summer, I don't keep gravel on them and instead have grass. They see only limited traffic, mostly when I'm mowing.
 
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Thanks Roy...interesting reading...I remember my grandparents always had a huge garden that produced beautiful flowers and vegetables but I don't know if they dumped their coal ashes on the garden or not.

From what I read of the PennLive article, you could spread the coal ashes on your yard and let them work into the soil. Heck, 90% of my grass is so bad I don't think ANYTHING would hurt it.

You're welcome...do an internet search on the subject...you'll find more reading.
Sounds like your lawn is about the same as mine!
 
   / Coal stoves #30  
Most coal ash is toxic. It will eventually contaminate the ground water. That is one of the big problems no-one wants to deal with when it comes to coal fired power plants, which produce this toxic ash by the ton and store it in ponds as a slurry. Don't want to live near or downstream of any of those...
 

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