Closing in - Kubota L4400 vs. MF 1540 - some ?'s

   / Closing in - Kubota L4400 vs. MF 1540 - some ?'s #11  
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I missed spoke on the PTO clutch part; the MF 1540 and the L4400 have a similar PTO clutch. I don't know if the L4400 soft engages the PTO clutch like the MF 1540 does or not, but the PTOs are real close if the Kubota does. I was on a roll with the PowerShuttle clutches and was thinking about the L2800 and L3400s. Sorry
 
   / Closing in - Kubota L4400 vs. MF 1540 - some ?'s #12  
Re: Closing in - Kubota L4400 vs. MF 1540 - some ?\'s

I missed spoke on the PTO clutch part; the MF 1540 and the L4400 have a similar PTO clutch. I don't know if the L4400 soft engages the PTO clutch like the MF 1540 does or not, but the PTOs are real close if the Kubota does. I was on a roll with the PowerShuttle clutches and was thinking about the L2800 and L3400s. Sorry
 
   / Closing in - Kubota L4400 vs. MF 1540 - some ?'s #13  
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I'm not sure what soft-engaging is but the L4400 engages softly _IF_ you are slow and careful with the lever. If you just throw it forward it engages pretty suddenly. It takes a little finesse but if you move it forward very slowly the it will engage smoothly.
 
   / Closing in - Kubota L4400 vs. MF 1540 - some ?'s #14  
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I'm not sure what soft-engaging is but the L4400 engages softly _IF_ you are slow and careful with the lever. If you just throw it forward it engages pretty suddenly. It takes a little finesse but if you move it forward very slowly the it will engage smoothly.
 
   / Closing in - Kubota L4400 vs. MF 1540 - some ?'s #15  
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I honestly don't know which manufactures have a soft engage feature. I know the 1200 and 1400 series MFs had a half pressure and then full pressure delayed engagement that could be engaged at any speed without shocking the PTO. The 1500 series from what I understand has taken it even farther and works even better. Even though they can be engaged at any speed, it is always advisable to reduce the speed for the equipment’s longevity as far as I am personally concerned.
 
   / Closing in - Kubota L4400 vs. MF 1540 - some ?'s #16  
Re: Closing in - Kubota L4400 vs. MF 1540 - some ?\'s

I honestly don't know which manufactures have a soft engage feature. I know the 1200 and 1400 series MFs had a half pressure and then full pressure delayed engagement that could be engaged at any speed without shocking the PTO. The 1500 series from what I understand has taken it even farther and works even better. Even though they can be engaged at any speed, it is always advisable to reduce the speed for the equipment’s longevity as far as I am personally concerned.
 
   / Closing in - Kubota L4400 vs. MF 1540 - some ?'s
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Re: Closing in - Kubota L4400 vs. MF 1540 - some ?\'s

Back to the Kubota dealer today, where I drove the L4400 and reworked the numbers a bit.

The drive was good - felt like an incredibly powerful machine compared to my little B1550, of course! Controls were somewhat familiar from the B1550 too, so that was nice. All in all, a favorable impression. Yes, the manual trans isn't the best, but with the range selector having L and R opposite each other, it was relatively painless to reverse direction. If I had to drive it all day every day, my opinion would probably be different...

Hope to drive the Massey later this week.

But regarding the prices....the dealer knocked another $500 off the 4400, and agreed to credit the full ~$900 I recently paid to have the B1550 repaired (I'd be trading it in towards the L4400...) Pretty fair, I think.

I have a potential local buyer for the B1550, but I'm hesitant to sell it privately in the shape it's in.

The MF dealer will have to provide a very generous trade offer on the B1550 to get the price of the 1540 in line with the L4400.

ps - I know the two tractors aren't identical in a lot of ways, particularly the transmissions. But for comparison purposes, the price of the MF 1540 with 8x8 gear trans that I was quoted would knock an extra $800 off of the above priceI listed for the 1540. I will try to drive both trans types of the 1540.

I got a better quote for the L4400 from another dealer, but that dealer is a few hours away vs. this one being 30 minutes away. Also, of course, the trade-in value would be an issue. To compete with my local dealer, any other dealer would have to offer ~$900 more for my trade-in to compensate for that credited repair cost....
 
   / Closing in - Kubota L4400 vs. MF 1540 - some ?'s #18  
Ratter: Do you ever plan to use the new tractor to run a 3 pt. snow blower? If so the 8 reverse speeds of the Massey would offer more flexibility.

I imagine the lowest reverse speed on the L4400 would suffice, but it's great to have more choices. The 2 reverse speeds on my L4300 make it virtually impossible.
Bob
 
   / Closing in - Kubota L4400 vs. MF 1540 - some ?'s
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Bob_Young said:
Ratter: Do you ever plan to use the new tractor to run a 3 pt. snow blower? If so the 8 reverse speeds of the Massey would offer more flexibility.

I imagine the lowest reverse speed on the L4400 would suffice, but it's great to have more choices. The 2 reverse speeds on my L4300 make it virtually impossible.
Bob

I hadn't planned on it, just because my driveway is quite short (30'), and I could probably just do with a blade or FEL if necessary. But that's something to consider that I hadn't thought of - thanks!
 
   / Closing in - Kubota L4400 vs. MF 1540 - some ?'s #20  
Rat,
The 4400 still seems high. A buddie of mine bought one with a 6' hog, FEL, 4x4 for less than 19K in central TN 6 months ago. You may want to price shop some other dealers.
RD
 

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