Still searching for that perfect tractor for myself. I've pretty much narrowed it down to the 3 above. I understand the bobcat and kioti are pretty much the same machine except color. Although I did read somewhere the bobcat does not have position control? Can anyone confirm this? I really like the CC/Yanmar product but seems like it's lift capacities are lacking compared to the others? From all my price comparisons they pretty much are priced the same, with the ex3200 being 1,500-2000 cheaper. All are priced with a loader. ex3200 15,000 out the door and the other 2 right at 16,000 plus tax.. So that's almost 2500 cheaper on the ex3200.. it's beginning to sound like a no brainer. What do you guys think?