CK20S HST

[hosejockey2002]

If the CK20 is only that much larger then the TZ22, it's much smaller then I thought it was going to be. I know a guy with a TZ18 and I felt like it was a toy tractor. The bucket on the FEL just barely cleared the top of my pickup.

I used to have a grey market Yanmar 1401D, which was similar in size and capabilities to a subcompact. It would just barely load my pickup. My CK20's loader has easily twice the weight capacity and will lift a good 18" higher, allowing it to easily load my 3/4 pickup with dump insert.

 

[777777]

Hi ,

Northeast Tractor in Norfolk M.A had newTYM 223's with loader\skid steer bucket on Ebay a week or so ago for $11,999 ( buy it now ) with all manufacturer incentives built into that price so cash only.

Have a great nite.

Tom

 

[glmf]

my ck will load my F250 4X4 which has pretty high rails. It will also load my 18' trailer with logs on the forks. Its an impressive tractor for 20hp. I sure there are other good tractors out there, but I am happy with the choice I made.

 

[crabjoe]

I'm not sure how many errors there might be on the Kioti site, but sometime yesterday, they changed the HP rating on the CK20S from 21 to 22hp.

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Tom,

I checked eBay for them and there was no listing. I was able to find their website and they have it listed for $13,999 as if it were some outstanding deal. I've read online where others got that TYM 233 with a loader for around $14K. Maybe it's a really good price for the NE, but based on prices in the rest of the county, it not anything special.

This is what they have posted "SPECIAL PRICE - ONE UNIT- CASH, CHECK, CREDIT CARD, NO FINANCING AT THIS LOW LOW PRICE! INCLUDES LOADER TOO !!" I can't believe they will take a credit card for payment, but not finance. I have a funny feeling something is up with that unit because if you finance it with a lender and sell as new, doesn't it have to meet certain criterias? Plus, there's costs when a customer uses a credit card too.

 

[777777]

Hey Crabjoe,

Auction ended on Sept 6/07. Had been up a couple of times and started at the website price and then ended up at $11999.

I had b\m'd it as a curiosity ( they are not available in our area ) and to see if it ended up selling but obviously didn't but $12k didn't look too bad considering the specs.

Will be looking for a used CK20 or 25 myself soon as I think they are a great product. Just have to move something else first.

Later and have a good one.

Tom

 

[joe48]

I thought someone had once upon a time posted a photo of the CK20 next to a BX, both with the buckets raised. The difference was quite significant. Don't know who or where that photo was posted.

There was a thread and I couldn't find it ,but I'm sure it was 2 neighbors comparing their new machines . One was a CK20 and the other was either a BX or B series machine.

As far as CK20s being too big for 1.5 acres , I have 1.7 acres in Rochester NY, that I'm clearing brush, trash, trees etc. Also some landscapeing on the side too, foundations , stone walls , recontouring lawns etc.

I really can't see a BX size machine doing most of what I've done.
The CK has twice the lift capacity on the loader and 3pt. It's much heavier so more stable on slopes and if doing a lot of loader and dirt work that's real inportant to your ability to move dirt.
Plus I regularly load onto a 1.5 ton ,5yd dump on a Ford SD 4x4, I can't dump all the way to the center, but don't need to, as I can load dirt or gravel to its max load no problem and the load is only just above the sideboards.

If you're only going todo light occasional dirt work and mostly mowing, you can't beat the Kubota MMM sytem for ease of mounting and removal. The Kioti system is a very poor second and can't use the subframe BH with the MMM.

If you're doing more than that you CAN NOT GO WRONG with the CK20, one Heck of alot more tractor for less money and more standard equipment that can be used.

 

[crabjoe]

Joe48,

Thanks for your insight.

I only have one acre, but I have lots of dirt to move. When I say lots, I'm talking about an area just over a 1/2 acre and maybe more. So at 1st, dirt/rock moving primary for whatever I get. Once that's all done, it'll be mostly mowing.

Knowning I have to move enough dirt to dig out a foundation, my betterhalf wants to me get a tractor that weighs in at 2000lbs +. I want that weight to but I want a small tractor because I know after everything is moved, it'll mostly be used for mowing and moving compost/mulch.

I wish there was a way to hit a button on a tractor that would shrink or enlarge the size. What way when it's dirt moving time, you got a large machine ... For mowing, you end up with something in the size of a Bota BX so you can really manuver it where it needs to go.

I know one thing... If my Grandmother was still a live, she would be dead set against me getting Japanese when products from other places are available.

 

[IslandTractor]

I only have one acre, but I have lots of dirt to move. When I say lots, I'm talking about an area just over a 1/2 acre and maybe more. So at 1st, dirt/rock moving primary for whatever I get. Once that's all done, it'll be mostly mowing.

Nobody would argue that the BX is an almost ideal tractor mower. Compared to the CK20 it will be more manuverable as a mower and lighter. It also has a nice MMM for a reasonable price. On the other hand the CK is much more tractor and it does a fine job mowing. I just sold mine but if I were to set up a CK20 again for general use and mowing I would get a Caroni TL1500 flail mower that would make the CK more manuverable than with a RFM. I don't now anyone who really likes the Kioti MMM and would never consider that on cost basis alone.

Either tractor will do the job. You'll spend a lot more time on your initial task with the BX. Mowing times will be virtually identical with either set up.

 

[crabjoe]

I decided to talk a peek at Daedong's site and I found out that the CK20S is called CK22 in other places...

Daedong :: Tractor, Combine, Engine

It also seems some of the standard/optional equipment varies slightly and so does the weight from what's on the Kioti site. Weight wise, Daedong says the CK20 and the CK20S weighs in at 1993 lbs, Kioti says 2125 lbs for the gear. I wonder where the extra weight is coming from in the US models... Hmmmmm

 

[bearhawk]

Buy a bx and hire an excavator to dig the cellar hole.